• RE: YOUR Desire Index

    @tokeeffe9 said in YOUR Desire Index:

    1-The Last of Us Part II
    2-Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
    3-Resident Evil 2 Remake
    4-Cyberpunk 2077
    5-Devil May Cry 5
    6-Spiderman
    7-Forza Horizon 4
    8-Dreams
    9-Control
    10-Ghost of Tsushima
    11-Death Stranding
    12-Red Dead Redemption 2
    13-Fallout 76
    14-Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    15-Halo Infinite
    16-Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    17-Darksiders 3
    18-Gears 5
    19-Dragon Quest XI
    20-Anthem
    21-Babylon's Fall
    22-Kingdom Hearts III
    23-Call of Duty IV
    24-Skull & Bones
    25-The Elder Scrolls VI
    26-Pokémon: Let's Go
    27-Team Sonic Racing
    28-Crackdown 3

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @yoshi Great. I said if I saw that in a chat, hence the people saying it would be strangers to me, I would report it.

    And again, if I knew people who were using racial slurs and homophobic terms, we wouldn't be friends. I'm not talking about some standard curse.

    And yes, you're correct, it is subjective. I never said what I say here is fact.

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @sheria Every time I hear a rude word, no I don't. Every time I hear a racial slur, homophobic comment, things like that. Absolutely I will.

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @mbun said in Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned:

    This feels so far off from the original point of the conversation as it is...

    It is way off the point yes but as I said, so is twitch and youtube copyright. These are all automated services. I'm just making sure you're aware of that. The vast majority of things you use every single day is an automated service. So yes, google maps has nothing to do with ban on Rainbow Six Siege, the same way automated copyright services don't either.

    Article makes it hard to tell if you're banned during the period of their investigation or not, and if you are then that means you're unable to play until "they get to your case" which could take ages, even if you didn't do anything wrong.

    I would say you're absolutely banned.

    Heck, I remember recently seeing the thread of someone on this very forum complaining about something on Twitch going wrong recently and their account keeps getting randomly banned. Least that seems very rare now, but the more these systems get used, the more people who will have to deal with that kind of stuff, and it is always the user who gets screwed over and has to work to get their account back. That kind of tedious stuff should always be on the people getting paid to help run and manage the game and it's community as this is their job, so excuse me if I don't sympathize at all with:

    You're looking at this constantly as if the vast majority of people are affected. It's a minority of people and yes it's an inconvenience but what you're asking for is essentially impossible. The number of users on twitch must be insane right now. You cannot expect them to actually have so much staff to check on dodgy accounts. On top of that, the actual work would just get worse. Sure you can say don't do it if you don't like it but these are people, you get demotivated by doing the same thing everyday. However with an actual good system in place, they're far more equipped to deal with the number of cases that actually involve a human.

    ...to maintain a good experience for the user of the product. A user who has already paid to play your game or whatever and shouldn't have to give up their precious free time to deal with the back end of everything themselves just because the people running said product want to save money hiring less real people by automating a large portion of the process.

    Sure and as a user I don't want to be in an environment that's hostile, racist and homophobic either, those people have paid for the game too. Why should we have to wait for someone who's clearly like that to get banned. How will we even know if they are. With this system in place, I can see instantly, that person has been removed from the game, making my experience a whole lot better.

    Feel free to respond, but starting to feel like we're just not going to agree on this, so maybe the conversation is better not continued. I'm all for bringing down toxicity in games online, but not at the expense of the players. It has always been annoying even just having games that use aggressive chat filters that you have to carefully type around, even when just referring to a weapon in the game like a "bastard sword", but when you open those kinds of filters up to vocal input with bannable consequences behind them, you're really smashing open the can of worms big time.

    I can honestly say I've never in my life had to be careful about what I type on a game chat.

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @mbun Again, I feel like we're being extremely broad in how we're lambasted automated services so I'd like to just mention how great it is we can use our credit card by just waving them over a machine, pay bills without interacting with a single person, get a list of recommendations based on the things we watch on netflix, listen to on spotify, going through a toll and paying later or paying from a previous registration, using Amazon Alexa or google maps, I could go on

    Also, I just want to make sure, you did read the article?

    These bans seem to last for 27 minutes on first instance, and prevent playing any aspect of Siege, including Terrorist Hunt or custom games. Upon second and third offense, the ban increases to 2 hours. After the third offense, an official investigation into the account is conducted that could lead to a permanent ban, per the Siege Code of Conduct.

    This isn't exactly some system which instantly permanently bans a user and there absolutely is a human check.

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @sheria If that's actually how you talk to your friends, I really don't know what you're doing here.

    Who exactly are you trying to fool with "in the heat of the moment". That and "quite often" don't exactly mix, that's just saying you say it a lot and if I heard that in chat, I couldn't care less how jovial it is, any decent person would report that crap.

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @mbun But a lot of what you're saying is pure assumption/speculation. You're basically making it sound like all automated processes are bad which clearly is not the case. The vast majority of things we interact with every single day is automated. Comparing how rainbow Six deals with toxic communities and how youtube and twitch flag copyright is completely different methods and systems.

    And this is exactly why something like this is dropped far in advance of any live event type scenario so that after all the testing they can see how it works in the wild and adjust depending on the data they get.

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  • RE: Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    @mbun There is absolutely some truth. Any business will be striving to make things more efficient and cost effective but it's also being made to help. Let's be fair here, that sounds like an awful job, who wants to spend their day, sifting through reports of people being toxic, there are other parts to a job too. Bringing in an automated system help. If it has some issues, they will be able to address those.

    Is there any actual example of a game that does not have a toxic community that is only being dealt with by a team of people?

    You mention even if it is worse for the playerbase overall. We'll have to wait on actual stats but realistically the playerbase this effects the most is the toxic playerbase, the standard user will not be affected by this at all.

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  • RE: That's News!

    @mbun Good point, I've created it's own topic and moved the discussion over to it.

    Rainbow Six Siege players... topic

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  • Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    Just moving the discussion from That's News to it's own topic. - here is the OP I originally posted and I'll move over the posts discussing it.

    Rainbow Six Siege players who use slurs are now getting instantly banned

    Dropping hate speech in Rainbow Six Siege now comes with automatic consequences. Since yesterday, dozens of players have been saying that they received an automatic instant ban after using a racist or homophobic slur in text chat. Ubisoft has confirmed to PC Gamer via email that a new banning system is live in Siege.

    Seriously applaud Ubisoft for doing this. I hope all online games take on a similar system. This along with the endorsement system added to Overwatch will help a lot.

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