Kill Your Babies! The Publication Cup (Part 3) READ. THE. RULES!!!!



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084

    Robotron is just too ancient nowadays, not enough. From same-ish genre Star Fox does a few steps better.



  • It seems this 200 was maybe too much for the folks. And the rule about reasoning the kills with another game from the list is a good addition to the game in general, but perhaps this wasn't the best time to add that into the mix because of the already huge task ahead.

    But I'm not saying that we're giving up! The pace is just a little slower, at least now. And it'll feel rewarding after finally at some point getting through it all.



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike

    Killing CS again, I don't understand how it became so popular. Half-Life, the game this originated from, is vastly superior.



  • @Sentinel-Beach I assure you this will be the only time the list will be so large. Everything should be manageable from after this thread. Why not add the reasoning rule to this list? It may be daunting, but the truly passionate are not afraid to defend their opinions, as yourself and others have done. For pace of play, there must be several factors to take into account: Availability to play; disinterest; strategy; more interesting threads/topics throughout the forums; straight up forgetting. Whatever anyone's reasons to post, or to your point NOT post, there must be patience.

    Now, I figured 200 was large enough to justify waiting for only one other person to play but that's where the redundancy of the 6 hours comes in. I try not to kill because I want this to be a community effort. However, I have a self-imposed rule where if I kill three times in a row, the thread is dead. Thankfully I haven't come near that point yet, but doing so lets me know that the thread is no longer of interest.

    I can tell you are one of, if not the most ardent player, so your satisfaction will be justified because yourself and a small number of others make the case of what games deserve to be in the discussion as having staying power. So, when it gets down to the strawpoll, don't be surprised if you see not one but two games you enjoy make it. Everyone has the power. You just choose to use it. ;-)



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike

    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Because I was bad at it. And because Doom is on the list and I was actually decent at that game.



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow

    There are game I favour more in the stealth genre, like MGS, 2, 3, 4.



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
    Ultima

    The first Ultima just doesn't hold up. I wonder why they picked the first one for the list. Or I mean yeah, I get it, but still. There are a bunch of Final Fantasies here that offer a more enjoyable and memorable adventure.



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
    Ultima

    Soul Calibur I'm not really a fighting game fan, and this series in particular has never been much fun for me, would much rather play Marvel VS Capcom 2



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
    Ultima
    Soul Calibur
    Gran Turismo

    I hate racing sims, they are utterly boring and with having the much better and fun Burnout 3: Takedown on the list, this sleeping pill is simply not needed.



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
    Ultima

    Killing Final Fantasy X. As a Final Fantasy fan, this game truly hurt. The story was cringeworthy levels of cheesiness with romance that made no sense and felt like it was written by a 14 year-old boy and bad character development that didn't give me a single reason to care about any of the cast members. They tried to flesh out Auron's and Jecht's past, but it was tact on and wasn't integrated naturally within the story, while the rest characters were shallow. Now, a bad story with shallow characters isn't new to FF, but this one really outdid itself and at least other FFs had the gameplay to fall back on. This FF, however, chose a vastly more linear approach to prior FFs in favour of it's poorly crafted story killing the enjoyment of exploring an original fantasy world and finding secrets. It's the only FF other than XIII that I didn't really enjoy (so far). It's only saving grace was it's battle system, which wasn't anywhere near good enough to redeem the whole experience.

    I'll have to champion Final Fantasy VI as it is an example of a good, strong FF. With great characters like Celes who has relateable weaknesses and struggles and she deals with them as you progress through the game (SPOILER: including attempted suicide) and Kefka, a nutty, unpredicable villain who SPOILER: actually sorta achieves his goal in destroying the world. Also the gameplay, with the awesome ATB battle system and lots of party members to recruit (many of which are optional later in the game) with surprisingly varied playstyles for a turn-based RPG. Also, once you hit SPOILER: the World of Ruin the exploration is goddamn magnificent! And let's not forget that Opera Scene!



  • SimCity
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Pong
    Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
    Donkey Kong
    Double Dragon
    Marvel vs Capcom 2
    NHL ‘09
    Resident Evil 4
    Borderlands
    Dr. Mario
    Bully
    Tecmo Super Bowl
    Legend of Zelda
    Tetris Attack
    World of Warcraft
    Robotron: 2084
    Counter-Strike
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
    Ultima
    Soul Calibur
    Gran Turismo
    Final Fantasy X
    Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved

    Geometry Wars looks like a game that'll give me headache after only a brief moment. For something less flashy and slower I'd take the first Assassin's Creed with its calm pace and clear visuals.

    And this makes 25 games again. Time to trim them off the list.



  • OK! Time to look at this and respond in order:

    First: This round didn't hurt as much on the whole as the last round, but seeing Uncharted 2, Borderlands, Pong, and Gran Turismo all bite the bullet stings. However, Final Fantasy X being erased right at the end really hurts. If only it could last two to three more kills. Speaking of which...

    @MegaTen_out_of_10 Coincidentally, we are on polar sides of both X and VI, but I'm happy to see your reasons for killing off X. I love the game for a couple of reasons that you hate it and I couldn't get into VI for a couple of reasons you love. I love the series as a whole for providing such diversity.

    Finally: 50 down. 150 to go. Here is the most recent list. Time to start Round 3:

    Super Mario Bros.
    Tetris
    Grand Theft Auto III
    Half-Life 2
    DOOM
    Metroid
    Final Fantasy VI
    Super Mario Bros. 3
    Ms. Pac-man
    The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    Final Fantasy VII
    Mike Tyson’s Punch Out!
    Chrono Trigger
    Metal Gear Solid
    Super Metroid
    Contra
    Galaga
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    Street Fighter II
    God of War
    Diablo II
    Half-Life
    The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
    GoldenEye 007
    Super Mario Kart
    Sonic the Hedgehog
    Starcraft
    Mega Man 2
    Halo: Combat Evolved
    Resident Evil 2
    Pokemon Red/Blue
    Final Fantasy Tactics
    Grand Theft Auto IV
    Super Mario World
    Guitar Hero
    Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
    Super Mario Galaxy
    Pac-Man
    Battlefield 2
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    Ico
    Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2
    Arkanoid
    The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening
    Star Wars: X-Wing
    The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    The Sims
    Age of Empires
    Mortal Kombat II
    Rock Band 2
    Super Bomberman
    Ninja Gaiden
    Command & Conquer
    Kingdom Hearts
    Final Fantasy IV
    Super Mario Bros. 2
    Left 4 Dead
    Okami
    Shadow of the Colossus
    Metroid Prime
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
    Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn
    God of War II
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
    Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
    Skies of Arcadia
    The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    Silent Hill 2
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
    Portal
    The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowwind
    Heroes of Might and Magic III
    Batman: Arkham Asylum
    System Shock 2
    Resident Evil
    Gears of War
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    Crash Bandicoot: Warped
    Halo 2
    Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri
    Command & Conquer: Red Alert
    Advance Wars
    Fallout
    Team Fortress 2
    Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
    Mega Man X
    Lemmings
    Panzer Dragoon Saga
    Shadowrun
    Twisted Metal 2
    Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
    Metroid Fusion
    Homeworld
    Kingdom Hearts II
    Quake II
    Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
    Final Fight
    Star Fox
    Call of Duty 2
    Wolfenstein 3D
    Diablo
    Civilization IV
    Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
    Assassin’s Creed
    Burnout 3: Takedown
    Power Stone 2
    Super Castlevania IV
    Super Mario RPG
    Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos
    Fable
    Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
    LittleBigPlanet
    Crackdown
    Gauntlet
    Devil May Cry
    Battlefield 1942
    Far Cry
    X-COM: UFO Defense
    Peggle
    King’s Quest VI
    DOOM II
    Tempest 2000
    Braid
    Ridge Racer
    Ikaruga
    Lode Runner
    Gunstar Heroes
    Dig Dug
    Castlevania
    Tekken 3
    Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
    NBA Jam Tournament Edition
    Max Payne
    Samurai Showdown
    Vagrant Story
    Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island
    Marble Madness
    Infamous
    Planescape: Torment
    The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay
    Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
    Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem
    Jak 3
    Call of Duty
    Tactics Ogre
    Beyond Good & Evil



  • Super Mario Bros

    SMB 3 is in the list, no need to have the inferior game



  • Super Mario Bros.
    Guitar Hero

    Mainly because I think the song list of Rock Band 2 which is also on this list is superior.



  • Six hours have passed so I shall make another kill:

    Castlevainia

    This is being eliminated simply because Symphony of the Night is on the list. So far as I can tell, it is the premium Castlevania game.

    Super Mario Bros.
    Guitar Hero
    Castlevania



  • Team Fortress 2

    No interest in MP titles such as this one. It later came on the Orange Box along with the much more enjobale Half-Life 2, which happens to also be on the list. This was an easy one to eliminate.

    Super Mario Bros.
    Guitar Hero
    Castlevania
    Team Fortress 2



  • I'm kind of burned out on this list. :)
    I've tried to kill four things and just can't complete the process.



  • @TokyoSlim Can't complete because you can't bring yourself to make a kill or that you are tired of killing?



  • Super Mario Bros.
    Guitar Hero
    Castlevania
    Team Fortress 2
    Battlefield 2

    Not needed on this list that has plenty of superior FPSs like Halo.



  • Honestly, this length of list, the way we are posting kills, and the new rules require me to like, either take copious physical notes or scroll around for like 10 minutes on my phone to kill anything. The fact that this list is at least 1/3 made up of games we've killed 2x already immediately before this... not trying to be critical, and I'm happy other people are participating but this is why. It took me less time to write all this than it takes for me to determine whether a game has already been killed or not on mobile.

    I'll be back when the list is more focused and easier to navigate. Right now, it is frustrating and difficult to even see, let alone participate in.