Kill Your Babies! The Publication Cup (Part 3) READ. THE. RULES!!!!
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084Robotron is just too ancient nowadays, not enough. From same-ish genre Star Fox does a few steps better.
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It seems this 200 was maybe too much for the folks. And the rule about reasoning the kills with another game from the list is a good addition to the game in general, but perhaps this wasn't the best time to add that into the mix because of the already huge task ahead.
But I'm not saying that we're giving up! The pace is just a little slower, at least now. And it'll feel rewarding after finally at some point getting through it all.
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-StrikeKilling CS again, I don't understand how it became so popular. Half-Life, the game this originated from, is vastly superior.
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@Sentinel-Beach I assure you this will be the only time the list will be so large. Everything should be manageable from after this thread. Why not add the reasoning rule to this list? It may be daunting, but the truly passionate are not afraid to defend their opinions, as yourself and others have done. For pace of play, there must be several factors to take into account: Availability to play; disinterest; strategy; more interesting threads/topics throughout the forums; straight up forgetting. Whatever anyone's reasons to post, or to your point NOT post, there must be patience.
Now, I figured 200 was large enough to justify waiting for only one other person to play but that's where the redundancy of the 6 hours comes in. I try not to kill because I want this to be a community effort. However, I have a self-imposed rule where if I kill three times in a row, the thread is dead. Thankfully I haven't come near that point yet, but doing so lets me know that the thread is no longer of interest.
I can tell you are one of, if not the most ardent player, so your satisfaction will be justified because yourself and a small number of others make the case of what games deserve to be in the discussion as having staying power. So, when it gets down to the strawpoll, don't be surprised if you see not one but two games you enjoy make it. Everyone has the power. You just choose to use it. ;-)
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-StrikeUnreal Tournament 2004
Because I was bad at it. And because Doom is on the list and I was actually decent at that game.
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-Strike
Unreal Tournament 2004
Splinter Cell: Pandora TomorrowThere are game I favour more in the stealth genre, like MGS, 2, 3, 4.
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-Strike
Unreal Tournament 2004
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
UltimaThe first Ultima just doesn't hold up. I wonder why they picked the first one for the list. Or I mean yeah, I get it, but still. There are a bunch of Final Fantasies here that offer a more enjoyable and memorable adventure.
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-Strike
Unreal Tournament 2004
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
UltimaSoul Calibur I'm not really a fighting game fan, and this series in particular has never been much fun for me, would much rather play Marvel VS Capcom 2
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-Strike
Unreal Tournament 2004
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Ultima
Soul Calibur
Gran TurismoI hate racing sims, they are utterly boring and with having the much better and fun Burnout 3: Takedown on the list, this sleeping pill is simply not needed.
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-Strike
Unreal Tournament 2004
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
UltimaKilling Final Fantasy X. As a Final Fantasy fan, this game truly hurt. The story was cringeworthy levels of cheesiness with romance that made no sense and felt like it was written by a 14 year-old boy and bad character development that didn't give me a single reason to care about any of the cast members. They tried to flesh out Auron's and Jecht's past, but it was tact on and wasn't integrated naturally within the story, while the rest characters were shallow. Now, a bad story with shallow characters isn't new to FF, but this one really outdid itself and at least other FFs had the gameplay to fall back on. This FF, however, chose a vastly more linear approach to prior FFs in favour of it's poorly crafted story killing the enjoyment of exploring an original fantasy world and finding secrets. It's the only FF other than XIII that I didn't really enjoy (so far). It's only saving grace was it's battle system, which wasn't anywhere near good enough to redeem the whole experience.
I'll have to champion Final Fantasy VI as it is an example of a good, strong FF. With great characters like Celes who has relateable weaknesses and struggles and she deals with them as you progress through the game (SPOILER: including attempted suicide) and Kefka, a nutty, unpredicable villain who SPOILER: actually sorta achieves his goal in destroying the world. Also the gameplay, with the awesome ATB battle system and lots of party members to recruit (many of which are optional later in the game) with surprisingly varied playstyles for a turn-based RPG. Also, once you hit SPOILER: the World of Ruin the exploration is goddamn magnificent! And let's not forget that Opera Scene!
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SimCity
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Pong
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Donkey Kong
Double Dragon
Marvel vs Capcom 2
NHL ‘09
Resident Evil 4
Borderlands
Dr. Mario
Bully
Tecmo Super Bowl
Legend of Zelda
Tetris Attack
World of Warcraft
Robotron: 2084
Counter-Strike
Unreal Tournament 2004
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Ultima
Soul Calibur
Gran Turismo
Final Fantasy X
Geometry Wars: Retro EvolvedGeometry Wars looks like a game that'll give me headache after only a brief moment. For something less flashy and slower I'd take the first Assassin's Creed with its calm pace and clear visuals.
And this makes 25 games again. Time to trim them off the list.
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OK! Time to look at this and respond in order:
First: This round didn't hurt as much on the whole as the last round, but seeing Uncharted 2, Borderlands, Pong, and Gran Turismo all bite the bullet stings. However, Final Fantasy X being erased right at the end really hurts. If only it could last two to three more kills. Speaking of which...
@MegaTen_out_of_10 Coincidentally, we are on polar sides of both X and VI, but I'm happy to see your reasons for killing off X. I love the game for a couple of reasons that you hate it and I couldn't get into VI for a couple of reasons you love. I love the series as a whole for providing such diversity.
Finally: 50 down. 150 to go. Here is the most recent list. Time to start Round 3:
Super Mario Bros.
Tetris
Grand Theft Auto III
Half-Life 2
DOOM
Metroid
Final Fantasy VI
Super Mario Bros. 3
Ms. Pac-man
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Final Fantasy VII
Mike Tyson’s Punch Out!
Chrono Trigger
Metal Gear Solid
Super Metroid
Contra
Galaga
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Street Fighter II
God of War
Diablo II
Half-Life
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
GoldenEye 007
Super Mario Kart
Sonic the Hedgehog
Starcraft
Mega Man 2
Halo: Combat Evolved
Resident Evil 2
Pokemon Red/Blue
Final Fantasy Tactics
Grand Theft Auto IV
Super Mario World
Guitar Hero
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Super Mario Galaxy
Pac-Man
Battlefield 2
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Ico
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2
Arkanoid
The Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening
Star Wars: X-Wing
The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
The Sims
Age of Empires
Mortal Kombat II
Rock Band 2
Super Bomberman
Ninja Gaiden
Command & Conquer
Kingdom Hearts
Final Fantasy IV
Super Mario Bros. 2
Left 4 Dead
Okami
Shadow of the Colossus
Metroid Prime
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn
God of War II
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
Skies of Arcadia
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Silent Hill 2
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Portal
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowwind
Heroes of Might and Magic III
Batman: Arkham Asylum
System Shock 2
Resident Evil
Gears of War
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Halo 2
Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
Advance Wars
Fallout
Team Fortress 2
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Mega Man X
Lemmings
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Shadowrun
Twisted Metal 2
Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
Metroid Fusion
Homeworld
Kingdom Hearts II
Quake II
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
Final Fight
Star Fox
Call of Duty 2
Wolfenstein 3D
Diablo
Civilization IV
Maniac Mansion: Day of the Tentacle
Assassin’s Creed
Burnout 3: Takedown
Power Stone 2
Super Castlevania IV
Super Mario RPG
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos
Fable
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
LittleBigPlanet
Crackdown
Gauntlet
Devil May Cry
Battlefield 1942
Far Cry
X-COM: UFO Defense
Peggle
King’s Quest VI
DOOM II
Tempest 2000
Braid
Ridge Racer
Ikaruga
Lode Runner
Gunstar Heroes
Dig Dug
Castlevania
Tekken 3
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
NBA Jam Tournament Edition
Max Payne
Samurai Showdown
Vagrant Story
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island
Marble Madness
Infamous
Planescape: Torment
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem
Jak 3
Call of Duty
Tactics Ogre
Beyond Good & Evil
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Super Mario Bros
SMB 3 is in the list, no need to have the inferior game
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Super Mario Bros.
Guitar HeroMainly because I think the song list of Rock Band 2 which is also on this list is superior.
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Six hours have passed so I shall make another kill:
Castlevainia
This is being eliminated simply because Symphony of the Night is on the list. So far as I can tell, it is the premium Castlevania game.
Super Mario Bros.
Guitar Hero
Castlevania
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Team Fortress 2
No interest in MP titles such as this one. It later came on the Orange Box along with the much more enjobale Half-Life 2, which happens to also be on the list. This was an easy one to eliminate.
Super Mario Bros.
Guitar Hero
Castlevania
Team Fortress 2
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I'm kind of burned out on this list. :)
I've tried to kill four things and just can't complete the process.
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@TokyoSlim Can't complete because you can't bring yourself to make a kill or that you are tired of killing?
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Super Mario Bros.
Guitar Hero
Castlevania
Team Fortress 2
Battlefield 2Not needed on this list that has plenty of superior FPSs like Halo.
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Honestly, this length of list, the way we are posting kills, and the new rules require me to like, either take copious physical notes or scroll around for like 10 minutes on my phone to kill anything. The fact that this list is at least 1/3 made up of games we've killed 2x already immediately before this... not trying to be critical, and I'm happy other people are participating but this is why. It took me less time to write all this than it takes for me to determine whether a game has already been killed or not on mobile.
I'll be back when the list is more focused and easier to navigate. Right now, it is frustrating and difficult to even see, let alone participate in.