NeoGaf's EZA thread. I want to comment!



  • @RockDoctor I used a valid, paid email. Maybe my account request got lost in the abyss.

    Thanks for the insight, everyone. I wasn't sure if I did something wrong (maybe I did - who knows), but reading the responses here makes me think it's just a difficult place to get in to. I like the website, but if it's littered with eggshells, maybe it's not the place for me.



  • Gaf's great. It has it's fair shake of crazy policies and elitism, but it still is the best place to get juicy news and rumors. With how easy it is to get banned, it makes most people think before they post.


  • Banned

    @Oscillator Eh. I consider it similar to Something Awful. Paying/signing up with a paid email means your account has "weight". You dont act like the usual jackass you might on a free forum because there is now money on the line.

    SA has that same problem too. Shit moves too fast.



  • I will just leave this here to show what kind of people are on GAF

    "The harassment got so bad that one user on NeoGaf named omgfloofy made a post stating the following…

    “The number of times I saw people shit talking about Nikki’s twitter in here on top of people posting about her on Gizmodo that she has deleted her account due to the harassment she’s seen.
    
     
    
    “People tweeting at her that she’s a hateful fucker and to fucking kill herself.
    
     
    
    “Seriously, guys? This is what you want to do? You bitch and moan and whine about inciting harassment on women in gaming, and you take part in this kind of shit on her?”
    
     
    
    […] “maybe people here should take a moment – a good long fucking moment – to look in the mirror before they start judging other people”
    

    As pointed out by Twitter user Jason Miller, the user was banned for objecting to NeoGaf engaging in groupthink harassment toward someone supporting #GamerGate."

    http://www.oneangrygamer.net/2016/09/gizmodo-incites-harassment-on-female-gamergate-supporter-forces-her-off-twitter/12410/



  • @Musou-Tensei
    That's pretty disingenuous. I've been in that thread since it started and "NeoGAF" was not harassing anyone, and if being against racism is "groupthink" then I certainly hope this forum is also full of it.



  • I gave a link, you give me your word.



  • @Musou-Tensei

    So, I'm glad you editied your original post, that I flagged - which was "Go fuck yourself"

    Here's my link - I'm currently on page 62. I welcome you to catch up.
    http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1283045

    Nobody that I've seen so far is inciting harassment in that thread, they are calling out a racist, for funding a racist political and reddit campaign, and reposting racist, Islamophobic, and hateful things his girlfriend said on twitter. They are hoping Facebook does the right thing and separates themselves and Oculus from him. They are not calling for violence or abuse that I have seen.



  • After 5 pages full of this inhumane hatred I feel rather sick, I don't think I will survive 60 more of that garbage, sorry.



  • @Musou-Tensei

    "inhumane hatred"
    ok, I'm gonna use my prove-it ticket.

    Point out to me, in the first five pages - some inhumane hatred directed at Luckey or his gf. I'm not seeing it.



  • To me most of it, but with everything else that exists, what one feels is inhumane hatred could be not to others,

    Page 10 now and I'm going to blow my melon off, Gaf is as horrible as I remember, fuck these disgusting people, I'm proud that I'm not part of them, I'm done.



  • @Musou-Tensei Ok, so nothing factual then, just you not liking GAF. They didn't actually incite any harassment and there's been no proof provided that anyone participating in that thread on GAF tweeted any harassment at Luckey's GF.

    I can understand not liking the tone of discourse on GAF, but that's what's disingenuous about your original post. You're letting your personal feelings of distaste for the tone of the conversation, sway you into believing that they did something they did not do. I am a firsthand witness refuting your assertion and provided you with proof - you just choose not to address it. Nothing I've seen on that thread is inciting the harassment of Palmer Luckey's GF.



  • @TokyoSlim This post is literally on page 5. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217802771&postcount=202. I can see know other reason for this post except for the purpose of shaming her for her opinions and her relation with Palmer. Also I see people saying anyone who supports Donald Trump is a white supremacist.



  • Have you read the article I linked, they show some of the posts from that thread, now admittedly no one went all Leslie Jones and explicitly told others to "GET HER!" but you can't deny that posting her Twitter link on Gaf and the following harassment is a pure coincidence, come on, you can't be that naive.
    https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/779432652982083585/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw



  • @JNT11593

    Shame her? That's kind of a stretch.
    First off, the post is about Palmer Luckey and his unfortunate association with racists and bigots that has recently come to light, not about inciting anything at his gf.

    Secondly, she posted racist/xenophobic/Islamophobic tweets, many of which Palmer Luckey then retweeted, a few if which then were reposted by this user. That's not inhumane hatred. That's reposting her own words to expose her bigotry.

    I'm pretty sure neither one are ashamed of it. Also, please spell out what harassment is being incited in this post? I see nobody calling for her to be SWATTED or anyone to go troll her on social media. No incitement.

    And Donald Trump is running for president on a campaign of racism and xenophobia. He retweets white power memes. He has been sued and lost multiple times for his racially discriminatory business practices. This is all common knowledge. If you support him, you are supporting racism, whether you are personally a racist or not. That's a pretty fine line to pick nits at.



  • @Musou-Tensei

    I've seen no evidence yet that anyone from NeoGAF has tweeted harassment at her. no. And speculation that if there was it was caused by NeoGAF users are not supported by anything but circumstantial evidence and maybe your own bias against NeoGAF, unless you can tie usernames together. People have been critical of Luckey's retweeting of her racist and xenophobic tweets for a while now. It's just that he shined a much bigger spotlight on himself about these issues now and it's gotten him in trouble.

    I'm of the opinion that the "timing" of her shutting off her twitter account is likely more about corporate damage control on that part of Palmer Luckey than it is about anyone calling her a racist on twitter. Many people have criticized her on twitter for her stances before and she didn't immediately start deleting her offensive tweets, and then decide to nuke her whole account when she realized how many there were.

    So far the only thing I've seen NeoGAF incite is a boycott of Oculus until Luckey is fired. That's neither inhumane, or abusive. I'd rather not give money to a guy like Luckey either.



  • My response was to you asking for Musou Tensei some inhuman hatred directed to Palmer or his girlfriend. The tweet itself may not qualify as inhuman hatred since that is something completely subjective, but linking to her tweets like that more than likely encouraged some posters in the thread to hop on the twitter hate train. As for the content of the tweets themselves she may have tweeted some that a racist, but I'd disagree that the ones linked are racist. With the most arguable one being the one about Islamic immigration. But that's another discussion for another day . And I think most people would agree that this thread is already derailed enough and is liable to head for a shit storm. So I'll probably bug out of this conversation. I typically don't like to get involved in shit that can be political



  • @JNT11593

    Sorry, showing support for the guy who's ACTUALLY inciting racist and bigoted harassment, hacking, and etc with the #freemilo tweet isn't racist?
    Again, I don't draw a fine line against people who set out to lynch someone personally, and the people egging them on to lynch someone. I think both are racists. I wonder what Leslie Jones would think about that.



  • Are you really that naive to believe that not a single person from Gaf could possibly tweeted at her?



  • @Musou-Tensei said in NeoGaf's EZA thread. I want to comment!:

    Are you really that naive to believe that not a single person from Gaf could possibly tweeted at her?

    Your original point was that NeoGAF incited and caused harassment. I dispute this as there is no evidence to support that.
    Do I think it's possible that someone from NeoGAF also possibly tweeted her? Sure. It's also possible someone from Easy Allies tweeted her. There's a lot of overlap between GAF and EA. But there was no groupthink harassment incited on anyone. There were people calling other people racists, with evidence supplied that they are racists and have said racist things in a public forum. This is not harassment, this is exposing racism.



  • Oh I feel like saying that even though it's even more off topic but also very important to me, I like keeping feelings in the threads they were created in. Like for example if I ever post codes in the give away thread again and you want to snag it, don't be shy to tell me you did (so I can delete it and won't waste other people's time with used codes), I will not be mad or something (well, not more than I'm naturally am).