Dark Souls Virgin



  • @El-Shmiablo dark souls is probally the closest we'll ever get to 3d metriodvania game (besides metriod it self) thats why i think fromsoft should try to get the castlevania ip



  • Don't be afraid to restart your entire playthrough if you get to a point where you think you've royally screwed up your leveling, character or equipment choices. It might take you 10 hours to get both bells rung on your first time playing, but on a second attempt where you know what you're doing you'll do it in 2-3 and laugh at how bad you thought you were before.



  • @Mr-M Ok, this is why I'm here asking questions. How do I not screw it up?



  • @Faaip Nice. I'm gonna make a point of trying out as much stuff as I can.



  • @Sheria @FF7Cloud So one said take the master key, and one said don't. What are the benefits or problems with both of these?



  • @Fridge-man Noted.



  • @FF7Cloud

    I'm imagining a From Software and Sony Japan Studio (their best/most innovative work was when these teams joined) collaboration on a Castlevaina game. Art direction of BB applied to this series would be amazing.



  • @Av8orGamer it's hard to answer that haha, since really the only way to find out is to play it and just do what you think is natural for you to be doing in regards to what stat you want to level. Things to really take note of are the weapon scaling rank (S is the best because japan), the strength required to hold a weapon is halved if you two hand and leveling strength like crazy isn't going to make gigantic weapons swing faster. Oh and HP for the love of god level up HP early, and "Resistance" does nothing at all. Try not to kill NPCs either since the game tends to remember and it costs a lot to go clear that with the faith man.

    As for the master key, you may as well grab it but it's not life changing if you do or don't. Benefits are that you can explore (and be murdered) by things out of sequence in some cases and get some loot that's alright (actually "bloody amazing" if you can kill Havel early) if you do survive. Cons are I guess from a sentimental point that you'll be doing the early part of the game with some things that you'd normally get about 3/5ths of the way through. I'd personally get it since the other "gifts" are rather meh.



  • @Av8orGamer if you take it it opens up areas you couldnt acess till late game kinda messes with the difficulty curve



  • This picture is a very old, community-accepted new players guide to Dark Souls that I'm surprised nobody here has posted yet. Not all of this will make sense to you at this moment, but I strongly recommend bookmarking it and checking back at it as time goes on.

    Other tips I would add here:

    1. Do not, I repeat, do NOT take the Master Key as your starting gift. The key is designed as an item that allows experienced players to break the game. You are neither an experienced player nor should be wanting (or able) to break the game.

    2. Avoid using the internet aside from this thread. Dark Souls is really satisfying if you learn everything on your own aside from the very basics (which you get from the in-game tutorial, and this thread).

    3. For your first playthrough, you are going to want to do either a Strength or Dexterity build because they are simple. Basically, you want to focus on leveling up three stats: Vitality (health), Endurance (stamina), and your offensive stat of choice (strength or dex). As a point of reference, all of these cap at 40 for your purposes. If you level up theses stats you will never back yourself into a corner with your build by which you would be unable to complete the game at a reasonable difficulty level (although as a point of reference, I've done the game without leveling at all multiple times, so it IS possible even if you screw up). You can use basically any weapon to carry yourself through the game that isn't obviously bad (like the Broken Straight Sword Hilt), so don't worry about picking the "best" weapon. Just pick one with a moveset that you like and that scales well with your offensive stat. Speaking of scaling.....

    A quick explanation on scaling: on the weapon stat screen, you will see icons for the four offensive stats (strength, dex, intelligence, and faith) with either a letter or a --- next to each icon. That letter designates the scaling of the weapon (C < B < A < S). A weapon's damage consists of two components: base damage, and scaled damage. In the late game, scaled damage is typically very important (while in early game base damage more so), so your mid-late game weapon of choice should preferably have B/A scaling or higher in your offensive stat. The reason for this is if you have a weapon with S scaling in Dex, but only 15 points of Dex, you aren't going to be doing that much damage compared to a weapon with higher base damage but lower scaling. In the late game when you have 40 Dex however, that weapon with S scaling will most likely overtake the other weapon in damage output.

    If you have any other questions just ask here. I've played Dark Souls 1, way, way, WAY more than I should have (it's the only game I speedrun), and have walked through the "new player cycle" with ten of my friends I convinced to try the game, so I'm used to this haha

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    @Galaxy40k Dat number 20 tho



  • no 20 is best advice lol



  • @Av8orGamer I would definitely take it. Everything else it pretty useless and if you do by any rare chance stumble into an area that's better left for later, you'll soon know.

    The access to shortcuts and certain bonfires makes the key priceless in my opinion, especially that allowing you to the back entrance of the worst area in the game.



  • Since were discussing Dark Souls.. I ended up in the Demon Ruins too early, but wanting to find some loot I went exploring and came across the Ceaseless Discharge. I killed him in one hit, whats the deal with that? I just did Sif and it took me like 7 tries

    Good to know RES is pointless.. the leveling system can be overwhelming at first. Also what is poise?



  • @Faaip if you get ceasless to follow you to the fog wall and hit his hand he'll fall of the cliff killing him instanly



  • @FF7Cloud Oh nice, that's what happened haha



  • @Faaip Poise helps you tank attacks without your actions being interrupted, man.

    It pretty much breaks the first game by making it easy as hell, hence why it was extremely nerfed, even arguably removed, in the sequels.



  • @sonmi Ah makes sense! I guess I'll keep my poise ring equipped then



  • @Galaxy40k This is exactly the information I was looking for! Thanks for much for a such a great post! I didn't take the master key. I'm running a Dex based guy right now.



  • Such great information here folks! Thanks so much! I started up DS yesterday for "a bit" after work and ended up playing an hour and a half. So far, 3 deaths, and I'm needing to take down Asylum Demon now. @BeatenDownBrian has been giving me some strat pointers, but my controller is messing up so I'm gonna try again later today maybe with a different controller. :)

    I'll be live tweeting sometimes, and maybe posting screen shots or short clips over on Twitter @Av8orGamer if you want to follow my progress more than I post here.