How to build your own Gaming PC!



  • @TokyoSlim @Oscillator thank ya both for the replies. I've got several months of research ahead of me until I can afford to undertake this project... unless any of you also wants to fund my adventure? Think of the joy of being someone's computer daddy!

    Okay, I'll stop now.



  • @tokeeffe9 Well then! Now is the time to start paying attention to trends in the market for hardware. It will make picking things out easier when it comes time to build. :)



  • @Oscillator said in How to build your own Gaming PC!:

    You have to pay close attention to the dimensions of your case, whether it'll fit certain video cards and/or cooling setups. Also read lots of motherboard reviews to make sure it doesn't have a high failure rate or other design shortcomings.

    This is absolutely true! I made the mistake of not paying enough attention and had to modify my case and leave out one of my three HDDs to fit my GPU. But I got it to work. This is one place where PCPartPicker really shines. It helps catch those mistakes.



  • @TokyoSlim I'll have to check this one out! I'd never looked at it before.



  • In my limited experience, building a PC is all about getting a balance you like between a few of the more expensive and specific components. These components are the CPU, the GPU (graphics card), and the Motherboard (MoBo).

    The first big question is, "which one of these three is most important"? If you are gaming, the GPU is probably the most important. If you are wanting to do batch photo editing, you probably want a screaming CPU. If you want to hang a gajillion things off the MoBo, then you might want to pay more attention to it's available connections.

    Assuming you are after a gaming PC, your first stop is Tom's Hardware Best GPU (or the latest version of this article.) Here you will find the latest and greatest of the gaming GPUs. You may also want to look at their best budget GPU line up as well.

    Key things to pay attention to for your GPU selection is how it attaches to your MoBo, and what kind of outputs it has. If you want HDMI, you are in luck, almost everyone has that.

    After you have a GPU picked out, it's time for the MoBo and CPU. Once again, Tom's Hardward has the goods for CPUs . Check out what they have to say and find one that works for you. Remember to pay attention to what socket it uses, as that determines how it interfaces with the MoBo. Tom's Hardware Motherboards will help you pick out a good one, but now you really must pay attention to the socket for the CPU and the connection for the GPU.

    Once you have a GPU, CPU, and MoBo that all work together nicely, go over to PCPartPicker and put your choices into their fantastic site. Then start adding components. You'll still need a power supply, memory, a cooling system, a hard drive or two, a case, and anything else you want to attach like a WiFi card etc.



  • @Av8orGamer @TokyoSlim I just looked at this wiki. It's fantastic! Thanks for sharing.



  • IMO, the most FUN part of building a PC is picking a case. Ho-lee, is there variety or what! My favorites are from Cooler Master.



  • @Oscillator I did a REALLY poor job of this. :( a good case is really worth the cost.



  • @Oscillator I'm pretty picky about cases. :)
    I'm currently using a Corsair Obsidian 650D.



  • I am still rocking my Therlmaltake Element V from over 6 years ago... And inside is also mostly from that time... I would love to upgrade it, but I don't have the cash to do so... And now I'm studying programming for the next three years... Funfun...


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    I have built PCs for the last... 10 years or so. I as many others felt in the beginning it being VERY overwhelming and and seemed so super complex.

    But then after a while I realised it s a bit like this:

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    Most parts can only fit in 1 or 2 places and everything comes with manuals (of various quality) to show you how to do it.
    When I build, if I dont use one of those wristbands I wipe my hands a few times over a radiator or a kitchen tap, just to get rid of static electicity from my hands. I also just use normal screwdrives.

    When it comes to select parts which is the hardest bit, I first decide how much I am ready to spend and if I want to go with Nvidia graphics card or AMD. This is pretty much a select of taste and if you are going high end to compare the power and power usage of the card(s).

    When I go for Nvidia cards I normally look at its preformance and which is doing the cipset. I normally go with MSI, EVGA or ASUS. You will notice that there a slight price difference on the cards.

    Motherboards are also a jungle to try and navigate through. Instead I normally ask around on forums and with friends. I am not super sure about which english forum to go to, but I use the swedish overclockers.

    With CPU I normally read tests from some places such as PC world etc. But it also comes down to cost. a high end i5 CPU can match many of the i7 ones. - it also comes down to what you are going to do with your PC.

    Maybe the most important piece that I go to after this (so you know the size of it) is the case. a bad (not cooling) case can have serious preformance impact on your PC. look for something with good cooling, many or big fans and what other people have said. I have recently gone for In-Win cases as I feel that they are generally of high standard.

    Once I have made sure that I have all the components that I want (I always leave RAM to last) it is time to look at power supply. You want something that are powerful enough to run everything and that you know that you still have room to put in more hard drives etc in the future without risking overloading it. I personally prefer to go with Corsair's supplies as they are generally of good quality, but thats just my opinion.

    Also.... ALWAYS buy extra fans for your case, perhaps except if you go for water cooling, but thats a whole other story. But maybe a stronger CPU cooler can be worth it if you are going to push your machiene as well as some extra fans to plug in as the cases normally comes with a couple of empty slots.

    I know that this post became kinda big and feel free to nitpick it and point things out - I just wrote this after waking up.

    So what are the pros and cons from buying ready made VS your own build?

    With building it yourself you know exactly what goes in, even though that a lot of places now a days gives you a few options for each part in your PC. But also if something breaks you can change that one part instead of sending away the whole PC.

    Buying a ready made one you know that the pieces are compatable and you normally get a warranty on your PC. The problem is that you can't open the case up.

    When building it you normally know you get it well done (at least if you buy from the right places), also you save time. Even though picking the parts yourself you can cut corners and save money, it feels like this difference have gotten smaller and smaller through time.

    PS. I also would avoid buying ready made PCs from the biggest everyday stores, buy one from PC hardware stores.



  • I was poking around this morning to see if I could find a few more good PC build articles. Here are a few that might be interesting.

    1. Building a PC to match the PS4 (old). https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171158-can-you-build-a-gaming-pc-better-than-the-ps4-for-400
      This article is a bit old, and the prices are probably significantly out of date, but it shows a build that will probably match a PS4 in performance and price. Given the price difference between PS4 and PC games, it might be a savings, plus, you get to build the PC! How cool is that?

    2. Here's another take on the same idea, build a PC to match PS4 or XBOne. http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/cheap-gaming-pc-builds-to-rival-ps4-and-xbox-one.html/?a=viewall

    3. This article compares a couple different PC builds with the PS4 Pro, XBox One S, and PS4 Slim. It's an interesting read. http://www.toptengamer.com/top-400-gaming-computer/

    4. GameSpot went all in and built a PC to match the PS4 Pro projected performance last September. It cost them $630. Here's how they did it and what they thought things would pan out for the Pro. It might be a handy parts list for a future builder. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/we-built-a-pc-using-ps4-pro-specs-how-does-it-perf/1100-6443491/

    In the end, PS4 will still have it's exclusives. PC will still have the ability to upgrade piecemeal for cheaper per item. It really comes down to where you want to game, and where your games are. If you have hundreds of dollars in PS games, you probably aren't really ready to drop $650 on a PC and then have to find a monitor. If you already have a gaming rig like me an don't want to blow $800 on a 4K TV plus another $400 on a PS4 Pro, then switching isn't attractive either.

    That discussion aside, building a cool PC rig can be lots of fun, and the customization options are insane. If you want to try, don't be scared of the high dollar figures for pre-built PCs. Building your own is as easy as building a Lego set. Just do a bit of research and try it out!



  • @Av8orGamer I'll be making the journey once income tax refunds hit.



  • @SabotageTheTruth said in How to build your own Gaming PC!:

    @Av8orGamer I'll be making the journey once income tax refunds hit.

    Enjoy! Feel free to ask me or other allies if you have questions. I'd be happy to help if I can! :) av8orgamer at gmail or av8orgamer on twitter



  • Was just informed about this thread. Anyway hoping to build my own PC soon, or at least buy a pre built one that I could easily mod over time.
    These are the parts im currently planning to buy, and anytips for a first timer would be appreciated.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/2YU32D6UBZMHP/ref=cm_wl_list_o_0

    As for the pre built ones im looking at, from cheapest to highest, im trying to stay around the $500 range, although I'm willing to jump to $600, mostly looking for something that could play most of the steam games ive gotten from humble bundles. (I think the most demanding thing I have is Dragons Dogma) Although if it could handle something like Killer Instinct or SF5 well that would be a plus.
    https://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Electrum-QS-A4-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01FZNMJM8/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1488046282&sr=8-7&keywords=gaming+desktop

    https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-GUA880-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B011B9E928/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1488046282&sr=8-4&keywords=gaming+desktop

    https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GUA3120A-FX-4300-3-8GHz-Desktop/dp/B01L0JGRSI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1488046282&sr=8-3&keywords=gaming+desktop



  • Hey, my questions isn't so much about building a PC but what you guys think about your PC's you have or have built since the creation of this topic. Right now I have a PS4 which has been my main source of gaming. I also have a PC that has a GTX 660 Ti and ive probably played mostly Overwatch on it and the odd demo or trial i can find to test how my card is in comparison to my PS4.

    At the moment I have been in heavy debate with myself in what direction I want to take. I've been looking at getting a GTX 1060 6GB and then in the future when its more realistic rebuild my computer in full since everything inside will start to age by then. I do like some aspects of PC gaming, KBM is great for shooters obviously but depending on the game a controller isn't so bad. Frame rate is always a bonus, when i notice it, and sometimes i feel restricted by consoles. However, as i read through a lot of things to base my choice off, i looked at graphic comparisons. When i have compared them i honestly see the smallest difference sometimes. Are side by side comparison of pictures or video footage a good indication of graphical comparisons? Typically the only thing i can notice is some slightly better shadows and foliage. unless its modded GTA, that just looks crazy.

    I understand the arguments for both fairly well, but if my games are only going to slightly look better with some extra frames for more $$$ is it really worth switching over to more PC gaming? Also is my tv holding me back? will a 1080p tv make more of a graphical difference from a 720p? I know the answer is yes, but how much? Because right now a 4K tv is mostly likely a purchase coming very soon which is another thing that makes me hesitate on jumping on PC.

    So what do you guys think? for those that have PC's or have built them, whats your experience from console to PC?



  • @CGamor7 Old post but hey, I only found this forum today :)

    I'm traditionally a console gaming. I will continue to play a lot of exclusive PS4 and Switch in the future. Since getting a 4K TV, I'm in the middle of upgrading my PC for that and I'll be getting the upcoming multiplats on PC in 4K. Unless I hear the port is really bad, of course. I figured it was better idea than dropping $500 on a Xbox One X. So assuming it's not a funky port, typical advantage of a PC version over console,

    • Different resolution support is the norm. Yes, stuff like Xbox One X claim they can do native 4K, but if the dev doesn't patch a game with the option, you're not getting it. You'll need a monitor/TV to support the resolution.

    • Frame rate. Since you have the options of tweaking resolution and other settings, you can target different frame rates as you prefer. We're only beginning to see this in consoles now that offer a couple different modes. Instead of high resolution, some people prefer very high framerate (e.g. 144+ fps). Again, you'll need a monitor/TV that can support your target fps.

    • Controller options. Usually you can pick KBM or controller as you wish.

    It's hard to say "how much" the different other than stating quantitatively the number of pixel difference between 720p and 1080p. I definitely think the difference is obvious and huge. 1080p to 4K, I think you really need to factor in your personal visual acuity, viewing distance, and size of the monitor/TV.

    For 4K gaming, I'm so far more happy with my PC than my earlier PS4 Pro upgrade that only applied to a few select things and rarely even native 4K anyway. For a 1080p or below gamer, maybe not so much visually but you should get a more stable frame rate, making the game feel smoother, which I think is important too.



  • Well, I did say I'd be back. I've been home for a little bit now and I'm moving to Canada next month. Since I'll be working remotely for a a few months initially, I want to get a high end PC for that and gaming. A few friends have helped me out massively with picking out parts and this is where I am at the moment. The only thing that isn't here that I will be aiming for is a 1440p 140hz monitor. So that should give a good idea on the specs I've gone with.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU - AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($373.95 @ shopRBC)
    CPU Cooler - Cooler Master - MasterLiquid 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    Motherboard - Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($117.99 @ PC Canada)
    Memory - G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($159.99 @ Memory Express)
    Storage - Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($112.12 @ DirectCanada)
    Storage - Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.25 @ shopRBC)
    Video Card - Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($664.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Case - Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.72 @ DirectCanada)
    Power Supply - SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.98 @ NCIX)
    Operating System - Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($113.50 @ DirectCanada)

    Total - $1931.48

    Anyway, I was just throwing it out there to see what others thought. If there were areas where I could save something or others where it's really worth spending that extra bit for the long run.



  • @tokeeffe9 Very Impressive. One thing I might spend a little more on, based on personal experience, is a bigger SSD. 200-300 GB can seem like a lot, but I found myself filling it up rather quickly, especially with the increasing size of Steam Games (HITMAN 2016 is 70 GB!), so that with things like Unity, Visual Studio, Photoshop and Premiere as well as working files on my SSD, I can only ever have a couple of big games installed on it at once.

    GamePipe is amazing at dealing with this problem but it can get annoying at times.



  • @tokeeffe9 @Hazz3r I second that the SSD size is rather on the low for "High End" build. I would recommend to upgrade at least to 500Gb, but even that will fill up relatively fast, considering how big some games are these days. Other than that, it's a pretty solid build. And as you do some serious work (I think) with that PC, Ryzen is definitely way to go for now. 16GB of RAM is good, but depending on what kind of work you do, it might need some more later down on the line, and GTX 1080 is solid choice for pretty much any build that can afford it. And PSU has more than enough power for the build, but I wouldn't skimp on the PSU if possible.