Final Fantasy XV reviews are out



  • @FF7Cloud I usually try to pay attention mostly to the users rather than big reviewer sites, including EZA, since I believe I'm able to discern better who has a perspective similar to mind.

    That said I'm not really a FF fan, so I also feel that I need to see mostly the opinion of those that are in a similar camp.



  • @Browarr Not sure why you're being blamed for simply posting their review among all the others, no harm done really, it's just another point of view to complement the rest.

    I used to read Gamekult regularly (they've kind of fallen off my radar this year) and it's true that their scores tend to be lower than average. They simply use the full 1-10 scale as opposed to most websites for which 8 means average, at least that's how they justify it.

    Don't quote me on this but I think they even mentioned that's the reason they were removed from Metacritic, as they often end up dragging the metascore of every game down...

    I would also add that the particular reviewer who wrote this is Puyo, and in my opinion he's one of the fairest guys they've got on the team, as opposed to some of their recent additions who tend to give low scores to appear edgy.

    So nobody should let that 6 scare them, ignore that part, the pros and cons are a nice enough summary. These guys know what they're talking about, they simply don't let anything slide.

    As always, read multiple reviews, positive and negative, and form your own opinion.



  • Alright, so I've now read 4 reviews, from Gamekult, Eurogamer, IGN and GameSpot, and there are both pros and cons that are mentioned in all of those reviews, the only difference being how much weight each reviewer seems to be giving them.

    I'll sum those up for you (many of them are similar to the ones listed by @Browarr above).

    Pros

    • The 4 main characters are well-developed and their relationship/interactions are a delight to witness.
    • Combat is fun, dynamic and spectacular, good companion AI.
    • Post-game content is meaty, epic and challenging. It appears that the most negative reviews (Gamekult and Eurogamer) did not play this content.
    • The open-world is vast and gorgeous.
    • The soundtrack and overall fan-service are extremely satisfying.

    Cons

    • All the other characters are one-note and under-developed.
    • The game suffers from severe technical issues (frame-rate, aliasing, etc). PC/PS4 Pro should make a noticeable difference.
    • The magic system is very limited and almost rendered useless because of friendly fire, reliance on consumables and low spell variety.
    • Summons are awesome but can only be triggered very rarely, under unclear conditions.
    • Camera and targeting system are unreliable and finicky, particularly against bosses/large enemies.
    • Side-quests aren't very engaging and there isn't much variety in the environments.
    • The second half of the game is linear and repetitive/boring (endless corridors similar to FF XIII).
    • The plot is disappointing and confusing, the most important story beats are in Kingsglaive/off-screen, a lot of secondary characters and story arcs are dropped and unresolved.

    Overall, based on these various reviews, the cons definitely outweigh the pros in my opinion. There's nothing that screams "This is a must-play!", far from it, and there are many better JRPGs out there.

    I'll pass!



  • @Axel I will say that I read the Kotaku review of this as well, and while they did say that the second half is linear, they also said that it becomes more of a straightforward RPG. So? Take that for what you will. I'd say it's a pretty good read, the author did an interesting thing, interspersing the review with memories of the older FF games.

    I've read a bunch of reviews now, and watched some gameplay, that was non-spoilery, and I think I'll definitely be picking this one up. I like the real time combat, it looks and sounds great, and the relationships between the four guys seems pretty legit.



  • @Inustar Yeah I think I'll give it a few months, and see what the general consensus is by then, from people who've played it, other Allies, etc. But the Day 1 temptation is definitely gone for me now. Unless Ben's review is somehow stellar and gets me excited again!



  • I'll add Polygon's summary:

    Final Fantasy 15's own opening text describes it as "a Final Fantasy for fans and newcomers alike." The game contains pieces sure to disappoint players in both camps, but it also provides a refreshingly human take on the classic RPG journey that I hope will inspire future games in the franchise. Final Fantasy 15 can be baffling in some of its questionable choices, but across the board, it hits more than it misses. It hums with an energy and compassion that I loved, a sense of camaraderie, friendship and adventure that fills an old and struggling formula with new relevance...

    It's interesting to me that some reviewers call the world boring and side quests simple while others say that the world is very fleshed out. Guess it's to be expected that a new FF game is received like that.

    Waiting for my copy to arrive :)



  • The post game content is something that I've seen as one of the main strengths of the game according to many reviewers, unfortunately for me, that is very rarely something that actually matters to me, since I tend to be done with games once I finish the main story.

    From what I've seen I think I'll wait until I can get this for cheap eventually.



  • To be honest, this all sounds really good to me. And taking in the ideas Mr. Bosman and vibe, from what I'm seeing I'm liking this game's vibe and the heart that it has there. It sounds like a good time to me.

    I did put this on my Christmas list but if I don't get it then, I'll get it in the new year!

    @Axel I was thinking the same thing. One of the reasons I don't play as many RPGs is because of the long time to complete the game! If this is a bit shorter than some that's a huge reason to buy it for me!



  • @Axel YES! I've always loved FF games but can't swing those epic play hours anymore.



  • Haven't gotten into FF since 9. Everything after just doesn't appeal to me. Too much metrosexual teenage angst. With that said, I laughed pretty hard with Conan O'Brien's review of the game.
    Youtube Video



  • @OneBagTravel I've been seeing so many people complain about this segment and how Conan pans the game, which is hilarious since he doesn't really like games and NO ONE is gonna like a Final Fantasy game with no context given for things.

    Anyone who watches clueless gamer segments for real reviews and not comedy, is a little crazy.
    I thought it was pretty funny though.



  • I'm gonna be 100% honest here, I was surprised as hell to see Ben's score on the official EZA review.
    Watching the actual review, it sounded to me like he was working up to dropping a lower review score. Turns out that this is either a game that is great despite it's flaws, or that everyone wants to overlook the flaws. Either way, I'm excited to start on this next week.



  • I'm cool with flawed games getting high scores, but I think that the virtues of the game have to be strong and, in a review, communicated in a powerful way, which is something I didn't think I got in EZA's review.


  • Banned

    Been playing it for ten hours and it's pretty good.

    Level 16 and I just made it out of the starting area and into Duscae.

    The overworld is pretty empty aside from small treasures and ingredients you can gather for food that Ignis can make, but it's better than Ass Creed levels of collectibles if you ask me.

    As for the combat. It's awesome once you get the hang of it.



  • @TokyoSlim I actually thought the exact same thing. Nothing crazy, but from listening to the content, I was sure it'd be half a star lower.

    It's actually a little odd as I feel like this is a trend. The last 3 reviews I watched, I thought they'd all be a half star higher or lower from listening to the actual review. I haven't felt this way about any of their previous reviews but for some reason I'm just getting that impression lately.

    Just makes me wish they didn't do scores even more.



  • @TokyoSlim @Ringedwithtile Yup, sounded like 4 stars, I was surprised by 4 and a half.

    It seems like the game truly has a soul, that's rare and that's what gives it the edge and allows reviewers to overlook its flaws.

    Fine, I'll... wait for the definitive Switch version.


  • Banned

    Respool the line before it's too late.



  • I don't get the complaints about the game's length. When I (begrudgingly) beat FFX I clocked in at around 24 hours, though it seemed a hell of a lot longer since it was such an ass game.

    I played XV for a few hours last night. It seems alright so far. Spent most of my time looking for treasures and hunting monsters though, so I can't comment on story just yet.

    Combat seems super simple, but I can see it getting fleshed out after some upgrades to the skill tree.

    I recommend that anybody interested in this game watch the companion stuff like Kingsglaive and Brotherhood. They cover important stuff that is otherwise glossed over in the game.



  • @El-Shmiablo X was probably that way for you, but I must respectfully disagree as I find great enjoyment in it. Ah well. To each their own.



  • I'm really enjoying it so far! This is the first Final Famtasy game I have ever played. Love the bros and love the combat. The open world is a little bare bones since most of the stuff to do outside of the main missions is pretty lame but I do enjoy the hunts so that good. Can't wait to dig in more later tonight!

    Can't believe I got this for $20. Best Black Friday purchase ever.