Final Fantasy XV reviews are out



  • @Inustar Yeah I think I'll give it a few months, and see what the general consensus is by then, from people who've played it, other Allies, etc. But the Day 1 temptation is definitely gone for me now. Unless Ben's review is somehow stellar and gets me excited again!



  • I'll add Polygon's summary:

    Final Fantasy 15's own opening text describes it as "a Final Fantasy for fans and newcomers alike." The game contains pieces sure to disappoint players in both camps, but it also provides a refreshingly human take on the classic RPG journey that I hope will inspire future games in the franchise. Final Fantasy 15 can be baffling in some of its questionable choices, but across the board, it hits more than it misses. It hums with an energy and compassion that I loved, a sense of camaraderie, friendship and adventure that fills an old and struggling formula with new relevance...

    It's interesting to me that some reviewers call the world boring and side quests simple while others say that the world is very fleshed out. Guess it's to be expected that a new FF game is received like that.

    Waiting for my copy to arrive :)



  • The post game content is something that I've seen as one of the main strengths of the game according to many reviewers, unfortunately for me, that is very rarely something that actually matters to me, since I tend to be done with games once I finish the main story.

    From what I've seen I think I'll wait until I can get this for cheap eventually.



  • To be honest, this all sounds really good to me. And taking in the ideas Mr. Bosman and vibe, from what I'm seeing I'm liking this game's vibe and the heart that it has there. It sounds like a good time to me.

    I did put this on my Christmas list but if I don't get it then, I'll get it in the new year!

    @Axel I was thinking the same thing. One of the reasons I don't play as many RPGs is because of the long time to complete the game! If this is a bit shorter than some that's a huge reason to buy it for me!



  • @Axel YES! I've always loved FF games but can't swing those epic play hours anymore.



  • Haven't gotten into FF since 9. Everything after just doesn't appeal to me. Too much metrosexual teenage angst. With that said, I laughed pretty hard with Conan O'Brien's review of the game.
    Youtube Video



  • @OneBagTravel I've been seeing so many people complain about this segment and how Conan pans the game, which is hilarious since he doesn't really like games and NO ONE is gonna like a Final Fantasy game with no context given for things.

    Anyone who watches clueless gamer segments for real reviews and not comedy, is a little crazy.
    I thought it was pretty funny though.



  • I'm gonna be 100% honest here, I was surprised as hell to see Ben's score on the official EZA review.
    Watching the actual review, it sounded to me like he was working up to dropping a lower review score. Turns out that this is either a game that is great despite it's flaws, or that everyone wants to overlook the flaws. Either way, I'm excited to start on this next week.



  • I'm cool with flawed games getting high scores, but I think that the virtues of the game have to be strong and, in a review, communicated in a powerful way, which is something I didn't think I got in EZA's review.


  • Banned

    Been playing it for ten hours and it's pretty good.

    Level 16 and I just made it out of the starting area and into Duscae.

    The overworld is pretty empty aside from small treasures and ingredients you can gather for food that Ignis can make, but it's better than Ass Creed levels of collectibles if you ask me.

    As for the combat. It's awesome once you get the hang of it.


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    @TokyoSlim I actually thought the exact same thing. Nothing crazy, but from listening to the content, I was sure it'd be half a star lower.

    It's actually a little odd as I feel like this is a trend. The last 3 reviews I watched, I thought they'd all be a half star higher or lower from listening to the actual review. I haven't felt this way about any of their previous reviews but for some reason I'm just getting that impression lately.

    Just makes me wish they didn't do scores even more.



  • @TokyoSlim @Ringedwithtile Yup, sounded like 4 stars, I was surprised by 4 and a half.

    It seems like the game truly has a soul, that's rare and that's what gives it the edge and allows reviewers to overlook its flaws.

    Fine, I'll... wait for the definitive Switch version.


  • Banned

    Respool the line before it's too late.



  • I don't get the complaints about the game's length. When I (begrudgingly) beat FFX I clocked in at around 24 hours, though it seemed a hell of a lot longer since it was such an ass game.

    I played XV for a few hours last night. It seems alright so far. Spent most of my time looking for treasures and hunting monsters though, so I can't comment on story just yet.

    Combat seems super simple, but I can see it getting fleshed out after some upgrades to the skill tree.

    I recommend that anybody interested in this game watch the companion stuff like Kingsglaive and Brotherhood. They cover important stuff that is otherwise glossed over in the game.



  • @El-Shmiablo X was probably that way for you, but I must respectfully disagree as I find great enjoyment in it. Ah well. To each their own.



  • I'm really enjoying it so far! This is the first Final Famtasy game I have ever played. Love the bros and love the combat. The open world is a little bare bones since most of the stuff to do outside of the main missions is pretty lame but I do enjoy the hunts so that good. Can't wait to dig in more later tonight!

    Can't believe I got this for $20. Best Black Friday purchase ever.



  • I think I would actually be on board with them doing away with scores, although I know it's good to get them on aggregate sites, I think the score narrows the conversations about the review/game. I personally thought it was a terrifically written and edited review, and it's disappointing to see most people talk about the score seeming high. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a fair question, but seeing someone on Neogaf reach back to e3 impressions to ask Ben what had changed, after he had already made an in-depth post explaining the review/score seems a bit much.

    I think paying attention to what the reviewers are saying is more helpful and nuanced than just waiting for the number at the end. EZA are legit some of the best in the biz at reviews, and some of my other favorites (ACG, Super Bunnyhop, Writing on Games) either don't have ratings or have broad ones, like ACG's Buy, Rent, Wait for Sale, or avoid.

    I do see the value of the scores though, so if they ultimately leave them then I totally get it.



  • It's not that the score seems high, it's that the score seems high given the actual content of the review. Bens review makes it sound like a 3.5/4 star game. 4.5 stars is kind of a shocking disconnect with the actual tone of the review imo. I love me some Ben, but I'm just providing some honest critique. Nobody should take any of this as a criticism of Ben personally.

    I'm not even saying the score is wrong, just that the review spent so much time focused on perceived shortcomings and qualifying that the story isn't self contained, and that certain things could be improved, etc. That then giving it a near perfect score is slightly jarring. If the game is really that good, I generally expect to hear more positives than neutral or negative comments in a review.

    Just my opinion. Take it as you will.
    I'm hoping I love FFXV.



  • @TokyoSlim like I mentioned, I think it's a valid critique to bring up. I don't fault you for doing so.

    I also still think digging back to E3 reactions in a thread where he already explained himself in detail is a bit silly though.

    In a broad sense on the topic of review scores, I think discussions on reviews that don't use a score at the end are usually more productive. It makes people focus on the content of the review.



  • About the disconnect, I'm starting to feel we have a situation that I liken myself to Mr. Huber's review of Ratchet & Clank. I felt it was a half-star higher than what I was hearing and it eventually landing on, and it seems there is the same sentiment, but in reverse.

    Either way, its still great. FF XV reviewed really well and of the other reviews I read (IGN, Polygon, Gamespot, Kotaku, etc.), Mr. Moore hit on points they didn't cover and still came to the same conclusions. Regardless of how it was scored, I loved it for its candor and honesty. It just so happened that is a glowing review.