The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (NS/WiiU)
The new feature is probably something like "extra zoom" or "mark enemies" or "reveal hidden objects".
Whatever it is I don't like how a supposed basic gameplay feature is locked behind dlc. That along with a new hard mode is not something you sell.
The new story content is fine tho.
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@Art Do you honestly think it is literally a feature for the Sheikah Slate map interface?
It's like you guys think Nintendo doesn't have something to prove. This is the first instance of DLC in a mainline Zelda game, not to mention the first significant expansion to one of Nintendo's high-profile singleplayer games (i.e.: not whatever Awakening had). If only because of all the heightened scrutiny you guys are a part of, Nintendo has to make something really cool. And what's more, they obviously felt obligated to keep the price down, because hardly any season passes cost $20 or less.
You're being optimistic.
I'm being realistic.
@Art I'm being realistic for the Zelda team.
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@Art Self-identified realists rarely are.
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@Art You can already mark enemies and zoom unless by extra zoom you meant really far in.
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Sorry to say but I'm more with @Art on this one.
New map features sounds like the implementation of fast travel, being able to draw your own quest marker, something @Haru17 mentioned, or something like that. Nothing about that language makes me think its going to be anything worthwhile.
I think what hurts me the most about this DLC is that things are being held hostage from me that should be in a free update instead. We don't know much about the content yet so I'm mostly speaking in hyperbole. Depending on what exactly the treasure chests contain those could all be update items, especially if its mostly on par with a Switch shirt. Sure they are bonus items but there still isn't a way to get them without buying it all.
Hard mode should also be an update, unless there are some serious overhauls to the base game, not just changing the percentage of damage. I hope hard mode is huge, and part of me expects it will be. I don't think additional map features can be anything but an insult to paid DLC and should be free. I can't think of what this could be and a reason it should be kept from people who aren't going to spend money on the DLC.
The second DLC pack seems legit, and very well could be worth the $20 by itself. It just sucks that I'm going to miss out on the updates DLC Pack 1 offers unless I buy in from the start.
@Tragosaurus The problem with all of the opposition arguments is that they all assume so much.
It is inarguably pre-judging.
To be fair, I judge most games harshly before and after release.
I talk shit about ME:A, but I'm secretly looking forward to it. There's also "Bad Cutscenes: Zero Dawn".
@Art I imagine you've at least seen a trailer for both of those games. We only have trailers and demos of the full release of Breath of the Wild, not the DLC. The only rightful assessment is extrapolation from those, and even then it's probably best to play the game one's self before assuming too much.
Assuming the game/DLC might have some problems is pre-judging, making assumptions, and outright wrong.
Assuming the game/DLC will be a masterpiece and will change gaming as we know it is perfectly acceptable.
@SabotageTheTruth It is the first time a mainline 3D Zelda game has had an expansion. I think it's a pretty obvious why myself and others are excited.
Please don't put words in my mouth the next time you post a reaction gif.
@Haru17 I'm not Scott Aukerman, I just shrug like him.
There's nothing wrong with being excited about this game. Sing to the moon about how much you anticipate it and I truly hope it turns out the way you want it to. That doesn't mean other people have a differing opinion from yours are off-base though, especially since Nintendo used very vague language when describing the DLC specifically.
I absolutely agree with your statement of, "... it's probably best to play the game one's self before assuming too much." I just happen to think that statement applies to both the positive and negative.
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@SabotageTheTruth You make out like myself and others are telling people to shut up for being skeptical about the DLC. In actuality, I'm just arguing that DLC isn't inherently negative (an assumption just about everyone on the internet is guilty of right now), and that a seasoned developed like the EAD 3 / whatever the Zelda team is being called now is very promising.
I am not saying it will be amazing, I am saying it will almost certainly be amazing, because of the pedigree and ambition associated. Furthermore, I am not going to let the generalized ragging go unchallenged in this thread. I am a realist and do not have a problem with skepticism, but I am going to throw into question skepticism based on no evidence, which a lot of the DLC alarmism has been. Cut content, hard mode removed from the base game, and on and on.
Furthermore, it is blind to the point of willful ignorance to ignore the DLC outrage's proximity to the narrative people in online gaming communities have intentionally crafted around the Switch. Supported by some generalized mediocrity during the Wii U's years, people seize upon every scrap of new information to doom-say and cast blanket aspersions. Whatever myriad of baggage and pet peeves cause each person to rail against Nintendo, the sentiment is largely reactionary, illogical, and based in elevating the online 'stature' of the critic as opposed to focusing on the specific criticisms.
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And I think it's pretty obvious why I and many others are pissed.
Nintendo does this the most dumbest way possible, forcing me to pay 20 bucks for 3 packs when i should be able to buy the only one I could see me care about, if the game is actually good, for 10, but no I have to buy 2 packs I don't want, this is just backwards and stupid. I mean other companies have some really rancid DLC practices but at least I usullay can buy the shit seperately even if a season pass exists.
And with most of the content here I don't even know what am I paying 20 bucks for.
@Haru17 So you think people being uneasy about vague language is part of a larger narrative to destroy Nintendo's good name? That's one hell of a jump in logic with nothing really ready to back it up. Nintendo does have a history of ignoring what its consumers want. You may be happy with every product they release but you are not everyone. People don't rag on Nintendo because it elevates their status, they have complaints because they expect more out of the company. I'd say nearly every gamer grew up loving Nintendo so we all have a soft spot for it. We want it to compete with the other big boys but it stumbles so much, it becomes difficult to root for it.
I'll be honest, I don't really care for the Zelda franchise as a whole, my commenting here deals more with the tone of this thread. Maybe I'm reading too much into things or I'm not understanding your phrasing properly but here's how I view it - it initially was started to show off the trailer for Zelda, descended into just reposting screenshots they have released, and now is essentially you telling everyone how wrong they are if they express any concerns over the game. It just doesn't (in my opinion) fit the vibe of the other gaming discussions placed here and since it's so focused on how much you love this game, perhaps it would do better in the blog section? Again, I could totally be off-base here and I apologize if I'm the only one feeling this way. Love and respect, all of that good jazz.
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I think there is truth behind that but I also think the forum lacks that many 'game' topics so I'm happy to see one that's actually still active.
Remember, we're just talking about video games here. Nothing to get too serious about.
Edit: Just changing the title slightly.
@tokeeffe9 N-Not my beautiful title!
Ah well, I don't mind it. Just know that I won't be updating this thread with the launch trailer as I'll have ghosted for a few weeks.
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That's okay. The only thing I generally like adding to these type of topics is the EZA review.