Frame Trap - Official Discussion Thread

  • Recent E3's are already infinitely better than ever for me ever since i found the allies, and this whole crazy master chef thingy Ben implemented is a big reason for that. Top tier segment.

  • That audio cue every time Ben mentioned a Devil Trigger, immediately followed by non-stop laughs from Kyle might be one of my favorite moments of this year.

  • The last Frame Trap sealed the debate finally - Sonic Adventure does NOT hold up. I've been saying that on these forums for awhile now, with people attempting to defend it, but now it's official.

  • @sabotagethetruth It's a charming game, and i still love it but time has not been kind to that game.

  • All I'm gonna say is that it's a horribly, horribly flawed game but I still love it in spite of that, unlike say Sonic 06 which I love because of its flaws.

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  • #74 - Brad stealing Ben's Hottake thunder ranks up their as one of my favorite moments, along with the ridiculous E3 Devil Trigger shenanigans.

  • I really think Frame Trap needs to evolve & freshen up a little. It used to be one over my favorite Allies shows but it's started to get verystale. I very rarely get through an Episode nowadays. Seems like the viewership has dropped of drastically. It used to do 40k views now it just gets over 10k. There seems to be now a lot more simular shows with better production values & better structure. Gameplay needs to be shown when they're talking about games especially when it's indie title no one has heard of.

  • @paulmci27 That's unfortunate about the views, I hadn't even noticed that aspect; I'm right there with you though, I used to really enjoy listening to every game they talked about on each episode but now I only check the timestamps to see if there's something of interest.

    Hard to say why this has happened, I don't know if I just started getting bored of the games they were bringing to discuss, or the format or what. The pandemic may be partly responsible too, though I'm watching more things on YouTube than I ever have before while I work from home so its certainly not the sole cause. It also lines up with Bosman leaving, but he wasn't always on Frame Trap, and his absence is clearly felt on the EZA Podcast. I'm wondering if they should just abandon the dual podcasts and combine the two.

    Its tough as I've supported since the beginning but I've really been pretty checked out of a lot of stuff they've done of late - which again is crazy because I have so much time to watch. Maybe we're all just being worn down, IDK, but I hope it bounces back.

  • I've made the point several times on the Resetera OT that FrameTrap is not well presented for Youtube. They don't have the names of the games they're discussing in the title, and the thumbnail and title teaser often only shows the one game despite featuring several.

    I've felt for a while that, considering that Frametrap is a popular show amongst viewers, a good change of tack would be to split out the discussion in Frametrap into smaller bitesize pieces of one game each, putting the full thing up for Patreon straight away and then releasing the full episode publicly only once each individual part is also live.

    Having the names of the games in the title would instantly play better with Youtube's algorithm and people are much more likely to click a 20 minute video with the title of a game they're interested in hearing about, rather than a 3 hour video with one guarantee theres a topic they'll find interesting.

    What's worse is that often certain Allies will be talking about games they played well after release, but there's absolutely no way of knowing that unless you're actively clicking on Frame Trap and clicking the timestamps. Just this episode, Ben spends 9 minutes talking about Deadpool, but you wouldn't know that if you weren't watching Frametrap already.

  • I love the bright colors Ben is wearing.