Frame Trap - Official Discussion Thread

  • @naltmank For me, it was a jolt of disbelief and I had to relisten because the first time they answered, I was in shock and I didn't remember what they said the first time.

  • Three and a half hour Frame Trap. I'm gonna pitch in and get Ben a bigger card so he can hit 5 hours. I need 5 hours.

  • I feel like they should just get panel together, hit record, have camera record straight to a external HDD or something like that, and keep going until they're tired or have other stuff to do.

  • They should start that 5 h episode (which will happen at this rate) at like 11 PM so that their stories would get REALLY interesting in the final hours. :)

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    Back when I started watching GT (long before the days of most of the EZA crew popping up), Ryan Stevens was the man who kept me coming back each week. I haven't seen this episode yet but seeing him as a guest has me jacked!

  • I liked the Hottake from this episode. It brought a couple things to my attention that I didn't even think about.
    For example, there eventually being a unified Nintendo where all of the developers are making games for a single system. I'm not huge into handhelds (I'm never really out needing to play and if I'm home I would rather be playing on my TV lounging than playing on this tiny screen with my hands all cramped) so there are a ton of games that I have not played, and a bunch that seem like something I would really enjoy. I would love to play the Bravely Defaults, Fire Emblems, Zeldas, and Dream Drop Distance (luckily I get to play that today without a 3DS) but not enough to outweigh my thoughts on handhelds. The idea of all of those developers now developing games for the Switch, something I could play on my TV, excites me. Not to mention the advancements they could make with the hardware and not being restricted to a shortage of buttons or joysticks. I'm not planning on picking up a Switch anytime soon but the idea that these games could be coming to it in the future and the hope that brings might speed up the process of me caving in.

    Also my pie in the sky dream for the Switch is an expansion of Kyle's: I want a full 3D, beautiful graphics, right analog stick camera controls, explorations Pokemon game with a completely revamped battle system. Thinking about the joy that was playing through original Red back in the day brings a smile to my face. Finding those Pokemon, dissecting the battle system, building the perfect team, and going on an adventure was fantastic. I want to run through an open world and see wild Pokemon wandering around, other trainers milling about and battling. I want a brand new sense of exploration in a Pokemon world again. Pokemon has evolved over the years but the feeling I get (of just hearing about them and never playing them) is they are always playing it safe, that this is a how a Pokemon game has to be formatted and going outside of that is not allowed. I want a brand new battle system. That could be a Final Fantasy X type battle system where you send x of your Pokemon out in battle and can see the turn order against another group of x Pokemon. It could be something similar but with a more Final Fantasy VII battle system, or it could be a action battle system akin to a Smash battle or Pokepark. I just want something new, a risk, something that couldn't be accomplished on the 3DS or any old mere handheld.

  • Absolutely painful listening to this newest episode (RE7) and knowing I don't have ANY time to play it let alone go through the series for the first time. I CANNOT wait to graduate.

  • The newest Hottake was really good, I think. It was nice to think ahead of the year and the gems we'll get, and the guys had interesting thoughts about many of them. And I especially liked that Kyle brought up a new Assassin's Creed outside Ben's list, but what I liked even more was his face and reaction when Brandon said "I don't need to go to Egypt.". Priceless! :D

    Also, RIP Kyle's cell phone.

  • When Damiani said bloodborne was calling him i imagined the scene from Jumanji when the kid at the house and he hears drums coming from the attic.

  • I actually meant to bump this topic the other day.

    I really enjoyed that Hottake. I think Damiani might have leaned a little too heavily on the casual poster view at times (I agreed with his points, just thought it wasn't as well articulated) and overall everyone had something interesting to say about the current state of Microsoft.

    It's something that I always think about. We keep seeing these reports that some want MS to get rid of Xbox and that it's not profitable so I'm extremely interested to see how the Xbox X will do in terms of expectations.

    To me, it does seem like they're to move more towards the digital/PC space now with all of their content being on both PC and Xbox. It seems like they're hopeful the casual market will go to Xbox (even though I wouldn't call the X a casual product) and that the hardcore will be happy to play on PC.

    Overall it is a very pro consumer approach but at a detriment to the actual console itself.

  • @tokeeffe9 I think the selling point of Xbox nowadays is that it's like Gaming PC, but it's more streamlined and easy to use compared to PC. So while some people say why make Xbox consoles when you're releasing all games on PC, it only makes sense to keep making them, as for some people, they don't want to go through the hassle with setting up PC, because Xbox is easier to use. So releasing varied Xbox consoles for different budgets is sensible in that sense.

  • People are scratching their heads a lot trying to figure out the strategy behind the Xbox One X but it is clear that its just a product for a somewhat niche market of people that want the best running console after 4 years of its cycle. I believe Phill Spencer has said it wont be for everyone so I am sure they arent putting all their "chips" on depending on big sales for the One X.

    My opinion on the Xbox is that it suffered from the get go of bad publicity (some legit and some that I disagree with). Two years after the PS4 and Xbox One, the PS4 had only a hand full of exclusives.. it wasnt until last year that they had a clear advantage on exclusives.. people blindly bought ps4s from the beginning due to the marketing in which I believe it was the reason that Microsoft canceled so many games (due to the low hardware sales).
    Sony is a Japanese based company and has a strong japanese development (stronger than last years).. Microsoft is a US based company with almost no japanese development. So this gives them the current advantage of "exclusives."
    I love my Xbox One S, it was cheap and has a great backward comparability options XD I wont be buying the One X since I have a good PC and just got back into consoles last year since in the past years there wasnt really a reason to own a console.

  • @edsortiz Even if we put the exclusive argument to the side, you're leaving out the part where the PS4 was $100 cheaper and a superior console hardware wise.

    I'd agree with you regarding the Xbox One X if it wasn't for the fact that they do seem to be pushing it pretty heavily. It sounds like pre orders have gone well anyway but I'd be extremely surprised if it sustained those sales beyond this year.

  • @tokeeffe9 Well preorders tend to go well when you make them have limited availability. Doing the Scorpio edition was their smartest play

  • @Inustar Very true too. We don't actually have any concrete numbers but it's still a good thing regardless.

  • Latest Frame Trap had a really good conversation on Lootboxes that Ben gets to straight away. Really enjoying the variety in how the podcast goes now which sections switching slots and the way they discuss games individually and in a group.

    Also, what a way to break out of the Frame Trap :D

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  • I really liked the discussions for A Hat In Time and Danganronpa v3. I've been very much looking forward to the allies' takes on those games. I was surprised to hear that Ben had also started AHiT, I hope he enjoys it. As for Danganronpa, I had the ending spoiled for me when it came out in Japan, or rather I spoiled it for myself. Honestly I'm kind of glad, because having gone through the game now and becoming so attached to a particular character it would have crushed me to watch them die. But since I went through the game already knowing what would happen I was able to handle it better.

    Also I love Kyle's rendition of Del's rap from Clint Eastwood, and while I love that song and think it's a classic, it's not the best hip hop/rap song that Gorillaz have ever made. I don't really know what constitutes "New York Style" hip hop since the extent of my knowledge on things relating to New York comes from watching Law & Order and Project Runway. I would however like to see some more Gorillaz songs in games. But I do listen to a lot of Gorillaz (all of their music actually) and I listen to a lot of music that I think is considered hip hop.

    Let Me Out
    The Apprentice
    Also, as a Gorillaz fan who was alive at the time of its release I think I'm contractually obligated to mention Feel Good Inc. which is fine because I thinks it's one of the greatest modern songs ever created.

  • Just a small update from Ben on the next Frame Trap

    Basically it's going to be recorded a bit later and expect it on Tuesday evening instead.

    With everything that's out today, it could be the longest Frame Trap yet :P

  • Ben sold me on xenoblade chronicles 2 when he talked about the blades and unsold me on it 5 minutes later when he was talking about how complicated the combat is, butThe main reason i probably will never play xenoblade chronicles 2 is because i hate the character design.

  • @A7X458 I think the character design or art style is a lot better than the last two entries if a little inconsistent, but the main protagonist – that’s outright disgusting. Not only does he look bland but also his clothes look terrible. (He ruined Zelda BotW! ^^) Would have preferred at least a bit customization on that part.