Nintendo Switch January 12th Event



  • @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @suplextrain mgs5 was tons better than mgs4 i was happy with it

    Both had problems, but the thing with MGS5 is that almost everyone was sure (based on what we saw up until release) that it would be a masterpiece. Instead what we got was an unfinished and rough game that created a lot of controversy amongst fans.

    @Stormcrownn said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @Bigdude1 salty people are salty. Looking for more salt to justify their current mood.

    What's wrong with you? You think I'm just "shitting" on things because I think it's fun or something? What's wrong with scepticism? I'm generally a very positive person, but I won't turn a blind eye to potential problems. I'm a hope for the best, plan for the worst kind of guy.

    Also "salty" doesn't even apply here. Salty was used in fighting game communities as an insult (often used jokingly) to describe someone getting sad/upset when they lost. The "salt" part came from the salt present in tears (which ties into the sadness part I mentioned prior).
    So just a tip, don't use words you don't understand the meaning of.

    @Stormcrownn said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    And you come off as someone who thinks they are being forced at gun point to purchase something.

    I have no idea how you got this impression. Did my statement about Nintendo needing to sell me on their product confuse you?
    A lot of people are sceptical about the Switch. It is in Nintendo's best interest to convince the doubters. Am I wrong?

    You ignore entire portions of what I'm saying so you can dismiss it with completely flawed and circular logic. You don't want to respond to any specific point, you just want to keep listing what you don't like and that nintendo needs to fix everything for you.

    I don't ignore or dismiss anything. But if you want to pull this card then you should look at yourself when you "dismiss" all the problems I bring up. But what is it that you think that I dismissed? How you think this smartphone solution is the simplest and most straightforward (without really elaborating on why beyond just "people always carry smartphones").
    The point I'm making is that the current voice chat system is not objectively the best, most intuitive and simple solution with the least problems. You on the other hand seem compeltely convinced that this was the best solution for no discernable reason. You're even claiming that having multiple options would be a problem which makes no sense at all to me. You're seriously confusing me.

    I get it, you have an incredible amount of faith in Nintendo and don't like it when people don't share that level of faith. But this is getting dangerously close to being close-minded. Nintendo has failed and messed up tons of times. This is only natural because Nintendo is run by humans. We all mess up.

    Take No Mans Sky for example. I was very sceptical about that game for well over a year prior to release yet I had people with blind faith in the game outright attacking me for being sceptical about it and wanting to know more. In the end my scepticism saved me from dissapointment (or even getting outraged like some people did). I was able to play and enjoy NMS for what it was instead of what it promised to be.
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with scepticism.

    @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @jipostus thats basically saying you shouldn't express excitement for a game, which only seems to be a issue on the switch here

    There's a difference between excitement and blind optimism. For example I an incredibly excited for Ni-oh, but I also make sure to keep my hype in check while trying to keep an eye out for any potential problems.

    There are no guarantees in life. There's a possibility that BotW could be flat out terrible. There's also a possibility that it could end up being the best Zelda game to date and the best game of 2017.
    It's not like every Zelda game has been great or flawless, so it's only healthy to not get too carried away imo.

    But if you want to go wild, then go wild.

    all im saying is the only reason the game's quality is questioned is because it's on the switch

    My scepticism for the game has nothing to do with the Switch.



  • @jipostus so i cant argue any point against people criticizing it? sounds like a poor argument. if you are allowed to have a opinion about it before playing it so can I.

    forums would be pointless if we couldn't discuss games that arent out yet



  • @TokyoSlim that's not what i'm saying though, the quality is only questioned because its on the switch. if it was any other AAA game you wouldn't even consider the opposite until it was released



  • @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @TokyoSlim all im saying is the only reason the game's quality is questioned is because it's on the switch. you never see arguments like that for other platforms here.

    You don't think there were people skeptical of The Last Guardian or Final Fantasy XV? You weren't paying attention.

    @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @jipostus so i cant argue any point against people criticizing it? sounds like a poor argument. if you are allowed to have a opinion about it before playing it so can I.

    forums would be pointless if we couldn't discuss games that arent out yet

    Nobody can have an informed opinion on the full game yet. That's what you seem to be missing. :)
    You can be excited, but there's a difference between being excited and pre-forming an opinion based on hype.



  • @TokyoSlim im saying here on this site, they werent.



  • @TokyoSlim you can have a opinion before it launches



  • @Bigdude1 I've been questioning Breath of the Wild since before the NX was even a twinkle in our eyes.



  • @DeweyDTruman you arent allowed to think that, tokyo slim says you cant be preforming a opinion until it releases



  • @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @TokyoSlim im saying here on this site, they werent.

    That is patently untrue. I dare you to hand me a prove it ticket. I can repost a whole bunch of people.



  • @TokyoSlim its the way it seems to me, you would never have discussions saying guys wait it

    id like you to prove it with just as lengthy of a discussion



  • @Bigdude1 Yes, you can have opinions before release. But they are not informed opinions. There is a difference between those two.



  • @Bigdude1 The game was in development for ten years, announced dead, announced alive, and delayed. You honestly think nobody doubted it? The difference between those threads and this one was that nobody was seriously trying to convince me that it was going to be amazing.

    The last guardian was a 10 year long joke.



  • @jipostus it absolutely can be informed. games have been demoed, you can use your eyes and see what they are going for, it's like surveying a game using smaller samples. given its not a full picture, but to say it's ignorant with no empirical evidence is just insulting



  • @TokyoSlim i don't really expect you to look it up, i was more insulted that i bought a ps3 to play the waiting game for those 2 games that never came out for the system i bought them for ( not solely for them but still)

    i'm just saying it feels disproportionate.



  • @Bigdude1 You have repeatedly stated that BOTW is 100% going to be a great game with no possible criticisms. That's an opinion, but it's not one that can be based on any current evidence.



  • @TokyoSlim im not saying perfect, i said its going to be great. im looking at it, reading the information about it, and its features appeal to me.



  • @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @jipostus it absolutely can be informed. games have been demoed, you can use your eyes and see what they are going for, it's like surveying a game using smaller samples. given its not a full picture, but to say it's ignorant with no empirical evidence is just insulting

    Remember No Mans Sky, MGS5, Watch Dogs 1, Spore, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mass Effect 3, SimCity, FF14 (initial release), Mighty Nr 9, Duke Nukem Forever, Destiny and much much more?

    As I said before, scepticism is healthy and there are no guarantees.
    Not saying people can't be super excited, but getting annoyed that other people are sceptical (and even going so far as to think this is them shitting on said game) is on the other hand not healthy.



  • @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @TokyoSlim im not saying perfect, i said its going to be great. im looking at it, reading the information about it, and its features appeal to me.

    You literally stated that the game is factually going to be great because there is no possible reason it could be bad. If it's not perfect, that means there are things that are not perfect. Which means that there are reasons it could be bad.

    @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @TokyoSlim you can cause it will though, at this point you have prove its gonna be bad

    @Bigdude1 said in Nintendo Switch January 12th Event:

    @TokyoSlim reread i sad assume that it might be bad, that there is even a possibility



  • I think this thread is going a bit overboard so I think I'll sit this one out until things calm down. There's barely even any discussion going on.



  • @suplextrain Not about the Switch anyways. Super off topic. :)