Looking for a Mid range gaming PC, with a budget

  • @TokyoSlim
    The 4th one has a monthly payment plan of $212, which does put it within my budget (Although all the others offered on there hit above, what I can spare)

  • @DMCMaster Well if you want to factor in a monthly payment plan, then yes, that Dell will be pretty good.
    Not really a fair comparison though. :)

    Also, just noticed it doesnt say what GPU it's using? Maybe that's integrated graphics... hold on a second and I'll look at it more closely.

    Edit: HD R9 360 2GB GDDR5 Video Graphics card, which, I guess you could live with for a while. That 2GB of VRAM is going to be an issue sooner rather than later, so this is going to be (unless something catastrophically fails internally) the first thing you replace. I would generally not buy anything "new" with a 2GB card in it, but at first blush, that appears to be the major corner cut in the cost of this PC. It's probably got some cheap power supply and motherboard too - but pretty much any prebuilt system is going to use crappy parts like that. That's why building your own is a better value in general. :)

    Just looking at that Alienware again, and it's got basically a 2GB mobile GPU in it too. I dunno man, I'd just save your money and get something actually decent in a few months. Or build your own. It's really not very hard.

  • To be honest I'm kinda afraid to try and build one myself, never done it, and don't know anyone that has. So I'm kinda afraid of screwing something up that fry's the whole thing.

    Also I wasn't planning to get one ASAP, My current PC probably has 4-5 months of life left to it (unless something drastic happens to it)

  • @DMCMaster I know it seems intimidating, but man - it's not hard. It's grown up LEGOS. :)

    There's a million youtube vids that can walk you through building a PC. I encourage everyone to give it a shot at some point.

  • @DMCMaster There are pros and cons to pre-build and custom build. I decided to get a pre-build because I was afraid that I might screw up something with the expensive components. And there something might not work and you have no idea why. I just have no desire to go through all learning, watching tutorials and then building and hoping that it somehow works out. With pre-built I'm guaranteed that it will work, or I can take it back if it doesn't. And today prebuilds are easier to upgrade as ever. Especially graphics cards, I've done that before and it's really simple. So while I encourage you to try and build it on your own, I have no regrets on getting a pre-build one.

  • It's definitely intimidating to build your own PC, but it's seriously not nearly as difficult as it may seem, but few things that you might need to know beforehand:

    • Make sure your parts are compatible with each other, PC part picker makes this easy.
    • If you go with new parts for your PC, Motherboard may need a BIOS update for them to work properly, but this is easy nowadays. Parts will work if you have right ports, slots and socket in your motherboard, but not in their full capacity before you do that update, but that can be done by going to your motherboard manufacturers site, and download the BIOS updater there once you've got your computer running.
    • Static electricity will cause some issues, so if you encounter that in your house daily basis, you might want to minimize that, and if you can fashion yourself a antistatic wriststrap (here's guide how to make one yourself), that would be highly beneficial. But you can make do without one, just make sure to keep pets, rugs and such away when building the PC. And don't wear sweaters or shirts/pants that cause static electicity. Building computers (half)naked is not that uncommon, so don't be weirded out by that.
    • Make sure to watch at least one or two building guides on internet before doing anything yourself, here's relatively good one.
    • Keep your cool, and take your time. If you rush things, you will most likely encounter problems.

    But here's the thing. Once you've built your own PC, you will feel more attached to it, and value it even more, and everything it does well feels more satisfying.

  • @jipostus
    Thank you for the links. Especially the parts picker, feel like that will save some me from panicing a bit

  • @DMCMaster Here are the specs: http://www.game-debate.com/gaming-pc/index.php?r_id=546589&cpu=Core i7-4790 4-Core 3.6GHz&gpu=GeForce GTX 970 Asus Strix OC 4GB Edition&ram=16GB

    And .this is how it looks like. I bought it about two years ago for 1200 bucks, if I remember correctly.

  • Self build help if you fancy it: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

  • So after looking at some tutorials, and videos about building a $500 PC, I think ill build one with these parts
    All together comes up to $573 (before tax) as of this time, although im going to be keeping my eye on them to see if they drop, although I'm probably going to order it bit by bit while waiting. Although im debating on either keeping or getting rid of the SSD

    Judging from the video I saw that built one with those parts (look below) It should be more then capable then handling everything I currently have on steam, but should give a little breathing room for more recent titles.
    Youtube Video

  • My build is a little faster but if you're comfortable with this one - do it!
    Also, remember that doesn't include an OS. :)

  • @TokyoSlim
    From the looks of things getting Windows 10 (At least its installer) Looks to be free,, although I assume it acts like a free trial or something?

  • @DMCMaster uh...
    I mean, you can try to use it without a license for as long as you can ignore the popups, I guess. I think MS still lets you do that? But be aware that they may decide to lock your computer at their discretion in the future if you decide to go that route. And the popups are annoying.

    If you've got a current pc with a legal copy of win 7 or newer on it, I think you can still upgrade for free via the accessibility program.

    But yeah, other than that, Windows isn't free. There's student discounts and such, but as I said in my very first post, an OEM license is 93 bucks. Retail is probably a few bucks more.

  • I know several people already commented on the difficulty of building your own PC but I figured I'd jump in as well. It's really easy. Yes very intimidating as well. I built my first one a year ago and was so nervous of breaking something as well but everything went well. I did it completely by myself with the help of a couple youtube videos and only ran into a few minor problems. The problems I ended up having were just forgetting to provide power to something, and plugging in the display cables into the wrong ports. Nothing a couple text messages to a friend and going back over directions couldn't fix. After the fact I immediately realized how easy it was and making updates to it won't scare me in the future anymore.

  • There's a thread over in general topics about building your own PC. It's fun, it's easy, it's cheaper than you could imagine, and it meets better looking games than a PS4 or XBox One could ever hope for.