What is your GOTY so far?



  • @Whoaness said in What is your GOTY so far?:

    @Nillend Oh yeah, which is why I was happy to talk about why Overwatch is objectively not GOTY.
    It's like how Jim Sterling automatically disqualified Overwatch from being GOTY nominee even though he loves it.

    I don't want a future of video games where everything is full priced game with bare bones content and also contains microtransaction, no matter how fun it is. We're allowing publishers to continually hold value as a hostage when we vote with our wallets towards these games, and giving them an award for doing so is just making it worse.

    I personally don't want a future of games where everything is full priced but with no content and microtransactions. But your argument about no matter how fun it is? Isn't that the original purpose of games? For us to enjoy playing them? If Overwatch makes people happy, why shouldn't people vote with their wallet? You might get some companies seeing the success and copying it, and yes they might get the wrong idea and make games similar but I think you don't give people enough credit. Game companies have copied games before and unless people have fun, then they will stop buying.



  • @Whoaness Question : Do you give Uncharted's micro-transactions a pass because there's a single-player mode? I also wish micro-transactions didn't exist in games but I fear they are here to stay. Luckily, a lot of them aren't too heinous, it's generally just cosmetics that affect no gameplay whatsoever. Once someone gets a distinct advantage because they spent more money than I did, then yep, we've got problems.

    One odd thing to note, Hearthstone definitely has micro-transactions that give you an edge on your opponent, yet no one ever seems to call that game out. Maybe it's because it's a collectible card game and that's almost always been part of the genre?



  • @Whoaness said in What is your GOTY so far?:

    @Nillend Oh yeah, which is why I was happy to talk about why Overwatch is objectively not GOTY.
    It's like how Jim Sterling automatically disqualified Overwatch from being GOTY nominee even though he loves it.

    I don't want a future of video games where everything is full priced game with bare bones content and also contains microtransaction, no matter how fun it is. We're allowing publishers to continually hold value as a hostage when we vote with our wallets towards these games, and giving them an award for doing so is just making it worse.

    I want to give your a fair reply on this.

    This is a decent argument. It's actually really fucking important, I more or less agree with you on it (I'm fine with cosmetic micro transactions). What it's not is an argument that stops Overwatch being personal GOTY for other people.

    You've shifted this over to "objectively not GOTY" for "reasons". I think the reasons are interesting, but it's still a shift and the first time you've made that completely clear.

    If you want to argue "objective" GOTY I'm out. Maybe we'll pick up when the end of the year swings by.



  • I have gotten off topic as well but might I suggest that those of us who might want to have a more in depth conversation of objective GOTY, or microtransactions, might we not want to move this to a different thread and give this one back to people just talking about their fave games of the year?



  • We're all wrong.

    Umbrella Corps.

    Game of the decade.



  • @SabotageTheTruth said in What is your GOTY so far?:

    We're all wrong.

    Umbrella Corps.

    Game of the decade.

    I just watched both Huber playing this, and Angry Joe's angry review...

    It's certainly gonna win some sort of award this year.
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  • @Inustar I've always found worst games of the year lists to be far more entertaining.

    Sorry OP, I can't seem to stay on topic for the life of me! I'll see myself out.



  • Does Blood and Wine count? If so, Blood and Wine. If it doesn't count, Dark Souls 3.



  • Witcher 3: Blood and Wine (might be an expansion pack technically but it's bigger than any other game I've played this year).

    It's actually my least favorite part of Witcher 3 (after the main quest and then Hearts of Stone) but it's still totally and utterly awesome.



  • Dark Souls 3, obviously.



  • @flower_arrangement Well The Last Guardian might be the only other contender. FFXV surely feels like it won't since Nomura left the project. Uncharted 4 was a game where it completely blows you away about how good it is that is hard to even think of anything else as good. Happened with Uncharted 2 and TLOU.

    Big franchises existed with the old Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek, way before Marvel. Marvel movies existing isn't preventing creative movies to come out. But that's movie talk. We're talking about games now.

    Fun is subjective. Putting a full price tag on bare bones content that should be F2P while piling on Microtransactions on top is objective. Let's make those two distinctions clear.

    @Inustar I'm just responding to people who are trying to say that Overwatch should be considered as my GOTY.

    @SabotageTheTruth Yes, and more on that. Not only is the singleplayer great, but the microtransaction in Uncharted 4 multiplayer isn't detrimental to the reward system. Overwatch's gacha system, where you're randomly rewarded with a high chance of useless cosmetics like one-line dialogues or spray paints, is hurting the feeling of being rewarded for playing the game. Sure, it's cosmetic, but they took away any other kind of tangible rewards. There's also how often you get rewarded. Before Uncharted is getting their first content update in a few days, I've unlocked all of the cosmetic microtransactions available without paying a single dime because every daily allows me to buy a chest of cosmetic goodies.

    Hearthstone is a card game, and, as you pointed out, it's nature is pay2win. I call out Hearthstone for a lot of things, especially for destroying a good WoW TCG by streamlining everything Upper Deck had made (They are now Cryptozoic making Hex). I definitely have no love for Hearthstone.

    @luckywallace Witcher 3 was GOTY last year. It's kind of cheating to keep considering it GOTY if it releases awesome DLC every year lol.



  • @Inustar Do open a new topic if you want to continue debate about it.



  • @Tankallex I don't think DLC should count as a candidate for GOTY, but that's a whole different disscusion.


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    Probably SMT IV: Final. Had so much fun with it! Though I have a feeling P5 will end up my GOTY ;D I've been going back and playing more games from previous years and haven't picked up many from this year yet.



  • @Whoaness said in What is your GOTY so far?:

    @flower_arrangement Well The Last Guardian might be the only other contender. FFXV surely feels like it won't since Nomura left the project. Uncharted 4 was a game where it completely blows you away about how good it is that is hard to even think of anything else as good. Happened with Uncharted 2 and TLOU.

    I find the game mechanics (the raw pressing of buttons, input output, game play, whatever your preferred name for it) unappealing in UC and TLOU. I don't feel blown away and can easily imagine other things being as good or better, but I'm genuinely glad that it had such a strong impact on you. Two friends of mine were speaking in similar terms.

    Big franchises existed with the old Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek, way before Marvel. Marvel movies existing isn't preventing creative movies to come out. But that's movie talk. We're talking about games now.

    I swear you are deliberately half reading my posts at this point. I specifically mentioned 70's block busters. Re studio output I'd recommend Jonathan Rosenbaum's Movie Wars if you've not read it, but sure agreed, enough movie talk.

    Fun is subjective. Putting a full price tag on bare bones content that should be F2P while piling on Microtransactions on top is objective. Let's make those two distinctions clear.

    The content of Overwatch is a fact, yes. The quality of that content is subjective. Should be F2P is an opinion. Whether Blizzard's release strategy is a positive or a negative one is also up for debate.

    @Inustar I'm just responding to people who are trying to say that Overwatch should be considered as my GOTY.

    No one is saying that. We're saying we're considering it our GOTY. We're saying there are games other than UC4 in the running. In response to your first post. Which you cleared up later. Then switched to a debate about objective GOTY contenders. You've got UC4. No one is trying to change your opinion on that.



  • It has to be The Witcher 3's Blood and Wine expansion.



  • @flower_arrangement If you want to nitpick mechanics, Overwatch has cooldown in an action shooter genre. That is, automatically, a turn off and poor game design to introduce a mechanic that counters the genre.

    And you're the one who replied to my post with an Overwatch gif, so not my problem. It's in my worst game list after what I played in the beta which is why I was very much obligated to respond.



  • @Whoaness
    Hm, it's no one's "problem". If there's any problem here it's that we're talking at cross purposes.

    I'm sure you will be very happy when UC4 sweeps the GOTY awards this year. More power to you.



  • for me it is definitely dark souls 3. I have played that game for 140 hours, and i still haven´t done everything there is to do in that game. I personally liked the lore, although i see a lot of people disliking it. The only thing that bugs me on the combat side of things, is the "removal", or downgrade of poise, especially in pvp, but they made such amazing boss battles and areas that i can totally look past that.



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    Easily GOTY for me.

    ITT: Random salty Overwatch person