Game of Thrones Discussion [Spoilers]


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    @ib0show The idea of plot amour in itself is a bad thing and moving plot in a quicker pace is clearly a bad thing as we're getting some awful storylines to compensate the quicker pace.



  • @tokeeffe9 The only awful storyline is the Sansa Arya story



  • In this thread, mods argue with each other about whether GoT is shit or not while talking about how they both eagerly consumed a pre -release, accidentally leaked copy of the show. Lol

    I'm waiting until Sunday, nerds!

    /Ultima



  • Gotta agree with tokeeffe, the show's style has dramatically changed, at least finally with this season. I'm kinda ok with it, though, with this super fast pace with everything, but it's very very far from the days of the Red Wedding, for instance. It's not dramatic, it's like some fan fiction these days. Everything comes together way too easily and quickly. Still an enjoyable show to watch, but the dramaticness and impact of things has dropped many spots in a lot of ways.



  • Eh, it just means less waiting. I don't see what the point of giving Danerys allies in Dorne and the Reach at the end of last season was though. But really if you have any show go on for this long and kill so many characters you're going to become desensitized and things are going to matter less. I'm happy the still-living Starks are seemingly getting a shred of plot armor now because we don't need another 10 dramatic betrayal / death scenes.



  • @TokyoSlim Ultima was the one who leaked it.



  • @ib0show ULTIMMAAAAAAAA!!!!!

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    @Haru17 The issue isn't really about being desensitised to the major deaths though. It's just felt like the show just did a better job of showing when you did something dumb, you paid for it. That's just not the case at all anymore and it really hearts the tension and it's been this way for a while.

    For me, the show started to slip after Season 4. That was the last great season of the show and since then we've had a sprinkle of some very good episodes.

    I don't want to keep on complaining about it anyway. I'm glad other people are enjoying it a lot more than me. I'm just so invested that I'll stick with it. I did the same with Dexter, which had a similar trajectory however that show never reached the peaks of GoT and had a hell of lot of lows... ridiculously bad lows.



  • Well yeah season 5 was pretty meh. It never was even made clear why Littlefinger gave Sansa to the Boltons anyway. I feel like the stuff since is a lot better though. TBH the Purple Wedding felt like wish fulfillment with how it slotted into season 4, but I didn't mind it.



  • Does Jon Snow's parentage matter at this point? He doesn't want to rule, He doesn't need to legitimise himself since the northerners follow him. Milesandre doesn't need this information to think he's Azor Ahai. Cersei is already his enemy so all I can think of is that this would cause distance from Danerys.



  • Does anyone find it odd that HBO leaked 2 episodes of 6 so far and the hackers have leaked none



  • Well well. Someone got a new toy.



  • So um, that was quite climactic.

    I knew things were bad when their small party got encircled, alone, in the far north. And they got out pretty leniently in terms of character deaths, but I really wasn't expecting them to get a dragon. That's cheating. Dragons are fire elementals and White Walkers are ice-aligned. We even saw the dragon explode into fire and exhibit a weakness to ice because it's its polar opposite. When they tried to review it it should have just burned up Skyrim-style! This is really quite unfair.





  • @ib0show sigh. Good one...



  • Easily the worst episode I remember of the show. So stupid, so pointless, so generic. Please don't leave this freaking zombie hack and slash be the finale of the whole series, there's literally nothing interesting about it. I want to see the final clash to be between these characters we've come to known throughout the series, not some CGI faceless bastards.

    And the episode itself. 80 % of it went with Jon's party and it was boooring. And made no sense. Gendry running some marathon and the crow flying for a week or two and then Dany with her dragons and all the while our sorry bunch just stands on a tiny island scratching their balls or whatever. And the use of Benjen, I don't even. "There's no time." What??? Just hop on the horse, man! Now you died with your yo-yo in three seconds for no reason. Goddamn this was a stupid episode.

    And Arya and Sansa, I honestly don't get what's going on between them. Arya's just being a dick all the time. I'm hoping that this is at least some plot of hers to get Littlefinger to let his guard down or something, but in any case these Winterfell scenes between the sisters have made no sense and frankly just irritate me.

    Sorry for some language, but this was such a stupid episode to me. Really annoyed at the moment. There's been good episodes on this season and Jaime and Cersei for instance have had many neat scenes each, but this episode was now just full of all the things I don't like to see in the show done in the worst way possible.



  • @Sentinel-Beach Yeah, I knew this episode would be bad since the whole plan was a nonsensical mess to begin with. You can really tell they are reverse engineering the scripts with a list of things they need/want to happen and forcing the characters to act in strange ways to serve the plot. The writers have really gone off the rails too in regards to how long it takes to travel in that world, which is what is really breaking things. If the plan had at least been halfway decent and went wrong for unforeseen reasons, I would have been less annoyed, but that episode was just downright bad.



  • @Sentinel-Beach said in Game of Thrones Discussion [Spoilers]:

    Easily the worst episode I remember of the show. So stupid, so pointless, so generic. Please don't leave this freaking zombie hack and slash be the finale of the whole series, there's literally nothing interesting about it. I want to see the final clash to be between these characters we've come to known throughout the series, not some CGI faceless bastards.

    I mean, the entire series started with the White Walkers, I don't see how you thought it wouldn't end with them.

    And the episode itself. 80 % of it went with Jon's party and it was boooring. And made no sense. Gendry running some marathon and the crow flying for a week or two and then Dany with her dragons and all the while our sorry bunch just stands on a tiny island scratching their balls or whatever.

    4 days, someone did the math.

    I don't see how others above are saying that people aren't being punished for dumb decisions though. Viserion died.



  • I didn't like the last episode either, I think the show has definitely let go of that sobriety that made me enjoy it. Despite having fantasy elements, the world was credible. However, it's no longer the case in at least the past two seasons. The show is being rushed, the events seem to be there just because they need to advance the plot for the next major fight or battle; the plot is currently at a point that would never be possible if the writers kept it faithful to the source material and to the earlier seasons; and finally, the main characters seem like avatars for common tropes, the good guys cannot have irredeemable flaws and there's apparently no situation from which the main characters can't survive if there's some plot still left in them.



  • Anyone else notice that when the white walker died, the chain ended up around his corpse in a spiral?
    Spirals, ya'll.

    Screen cap which I don't think is a spoiler, but I'm gonna put it behind spoiler field anyways:

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    Jon's like, "wait... was this chain a spiral a minute ago? Who did this?"