Middle Earth: Shadow of War (PC/PS4/XB1)



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    Holy hell, I didn't think they could make a narrative trailer that engaging for this game. And it even got the Bailey bump to boot. We'll have to see how much the game really takes the Lord of the Rings spinoff story angle — it is still Talian of the woman in the refrigerator, DLC ending clan after all — but this is an easy day one for me.



  • That lady's face looks really good. A nice trailer otherwise as well, LotR is a strong name.



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    BEN DON'T LOOK! Also, why is she suddenly a sexy spider lady like in Nioh? Creative freedoms aside, this game looks continually nuts. I'm pretty excited to play through it before Mario comes out at the end of October.



  • @Haru17 I was wondering why she was a sexy lady too... but then I remembered that she wasn't a giant disgusting spider anymore and I stopped wondering. Good change.



  • @Haru17 said in Middle Earth: Shadow of War (PC/PS4/XB1):

    why is she suddenly a sexy spider lady like in Nioh?

    Considering what she is it's not a stretch to think that she would have some shapeshifting power.
    That said, this game is basically fanfiction.

    But personally I won't watch anymore story trailers for this game, since it'll only harm the experience if and when I play this game. I'll wait for some reviews to read through and decide then-



  • @Inustar @suplextrain You guys crack me up. I have some speculation that I think is pretty likely at least for her character, so spoiler warning if you're worried.

    Considering the shadow realm and darkness she steps out of, I think Shelob's new bod might be how Talion sees her after she stings him with some sort of hallucinogen. So this is how you're talking to the character in cutscenes, however, we did see her spider form animated. There is no doubt in my mind that this game is going to have a spider boss fight. The only fantasy game that has avoided one is Breath of the Wild, and that's because they forgot to make more than Keese as animal monsters.



  • @Haru17 thank you for giving me another reason to want to play Breath of the Wild.



  • @Inustar You couldn't get a Switch?



  • @Haru17 not couldn't, didn't try. I'm waiting for more games to release that I want to play. Zelda alone wasn't enough, but I'll probably try and get one after Mario releases.



  • @Inustar tbh you'll probably like Breath of the Wild if you like open worlds but don't care that much about Zelda games.

    ...but. you. should. tho.

    Anyway, Mordor =P

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  • @Haru17 I mean, Shelob is basically half godly entity, half giant spider, so the writers could just be giving her the power to shapeshift to go with the rest of the fan-fic.



  • Lol what in the actual f...

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-15-why-shelob-is-a-woman-in-shadow-of-war

    Plater's approach to Shelob comes from an interpretation that she and Gollum are, in fact, the unsung heroes of The Lord of the Rings. Put simply, it's his take that Frodo fails to cast the ring into the fires of Mount Doom at the crucial moment - instead Gollum succeeds where he cannot (albeit tumbling into the fire himself along the way). According to de Plater, that weakness in Frodo was something Shelob sensed, making a pact with Gollum and hastening him on his way to Mount Doom and the final confrontation that saw the ring destroyed. It also goes some way to explaining why Shelob tried to eat Frodo in The Two Towers.



  • This got moved out of the current Shadow of Mordor thread into an older one, so just bumping this so people see this ridiculousness.



  • @TokyoSlim Ya, was going to add a comment about it. Anyway, it's more appropriate here.

    And on the article.. that is some ridiculous stretch to justify that nonsense. Just tell people why she's actually in the game.



  • All of this recent news combined with huber's disappointment from E3 makes this a pretty hard pass for me.

    There's plenty of other games coming out around the same time that I really fail to see what Shadow of War is bringing to the table that is unique enough to warrant $60 minimum, not counting any content they've put in the season pass.

    I'd probably be able to forgive a lot of it if the orc killing/etc was super well polished, but that doesn't seem to be the case.



  • Finally got this. Just finished the surprisingly long Act I and now the actual new game can start, meaning now Talion has the ability to dominate orcs and can start building his own army. This'll be a long fight, a long war. Cool story beats at the end of the first act, Mordor's biggest and baddest character(s) made their entrance, as well as an opposing force.

    And the orc captains work really, really well. Man, I like this Nemesis system so much. It's been already now so many times that a captain has said something surprisingly neat context-wise, e.g. how they're still alive after our last encounter, or how I'm a coward for attacking them from behind, or how they ambush me for trying to get a collectible and then mock me for that. I might have killed their men just seconds before by an explosive burning and the captain comments on that. All kinds of stuff. Lots of unexpected cool commentary again and again.


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    @sentinel-beach They need to use the Nemesis system in more games.
    Can you imagine an Arkham game with it?



  • @el-shmiablo Wasn't it rumored last year that WB Montreal's Batman would have that?



  • @capnbobamous
    That it was, and possibly that Harry Potter game too.


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    @capnbobamous Oh yeah! Totally forgot about that.
    I personally would prefer it to be in a Rocksteady Arkham game, as if Origins is indicative of the quality we'll get from the next Batman game out of WB Montreal, I am cautiously pessimistic to say the least.
    Talk about the definition of a filler game.