Persona 5 (PS4/PS3)

  • They dedicated more time to Kamoshida and we got to see more of his "evil". With the other targets (so far) they mostly just have like 2 dialogues where the target says some nasty stuff (or rather, their shadow version does).
    Also Kamoshida was directly connected to the protag and other people around him while the others are less personal.

  • @suplextrain Those are just all of the characteristics that make up a good antagonist. Hopefully the ones near the end of the game are more interesting and in-depth.

    The chapter of the game I'm in right now is much more interesting than art or drug smuggling, I totally understand not wanting anything after 7/7 streamed. Not sure about the foreshadowed overall antagonist, though. He/she needs to be more interesting when we finally get to his chapter.

    Does anyone know if the deadlines actually game over you or how that all works? I never even came close to one (and I ran the third dungeon all the way to the treasure in one day ;), but some of the dialogue sounded like it would adapt if the party had failed and supposedly been expelled. Obviously the story would find some way for you to still attend that high school, but I'm not sure if Persona changes much like that.

    The last in my list of disparate thoughts concerns full spoilers for the first chapter / dungeon arc of the game.

    One thing that bothered me about the writing is how — only a day or so after Shiho was heavily implied to have been raped and beaten and she tried to kill herself — one of the characters described Kamoshida's actions toward her as 'sexual harassment.' Now, obviously even if Kamoshida had been unsuccessful that would still have been sexual assault. It just feels like the game is apologizing for its antagonist in a weird way, using inaccurate and less severe terms like that. Whether this is intentional or just an oversight by one of the dialogue writers I couldn't say. However, I've seen this instinct even within media about difficult subject matter to shy away or otherwise lessen the issues like this, which seems like very intentional and wrong-minded decisions. Or maybe this instance was due to the translation — I couldn't say, however it did undercut and take me out of the story for a moment.

    Another thing that bugged me was the subplot / running joke about Morgana's crush on Ann, especially since it started off on the wrong foot during the Pervert Castle arc. Like, if these characters were real people you'd think that the cat would at least wait until after they destroy the castle with busts of the asses of high school girls in gym shorts to start hitting on the girl who — as far as he knew — was being sexual harassed by Kamoshida as well. And that's ignoring the weirdness of an anime cat plushy character being into a human woman, and how little it develops in the first several chapters of the game. It just seems beneath the level of storytelling in Persona 5, and to undercut the story during the — we've agreed, well-made and important — Kamoshida arc.

  • @Haru17 Y'know, in all my experience of playing Persona, I've not once failed to hit that deadline, not even for fun just to see what happens. I can assume it causes a game over and sets you back a day or two to try again, but I've got nothing backing that up.

    And yep, those are both solid points for the first dungeon. The Morgana thing still comes across as a little strange and out of place for me. I can only think they're leaning a little too heavily on past characters like Teddie in P4 - a giant fuzzy bear that would always hit on girls and make bear puns. I think Morgana is much more likable, besides what you mentioned.

    I realized upon waking up this morning I was going to have a long closing shift with absolutely nothing to do. Then I realized I have a Vita and remote play is a thing. It's gonna be a good day everyone!

  • Just popping in to say that I don't own a PS3 or PS4, so I've been experiencing the game by going over to a friend's house and talking about it in real time. It's been a lot of fun so far to be able to talk to another big Persona/JRPG fan in real time while seeing the game after going in with almost no information (HARD media shutdown on this one). He even waited for me to come over before starting the game, which I was really touched by given that he's had it since release day. I just re-completed P4 to build the hype, and it's cool to see the way that P5 has been updating its references, dialogue, and technology to mirror the jumps we've made since P4's release. The use of smartphones was a weird moment of "oh, right, we're not in 2008 anymore".

  • @Haru17 I have few problems with this game, and the few I have are pretty small.
    But one of those is the Morgana crush on Ann. I really hate it when he says "You're so gorgeous Panther" when she kills the enemies. It just irks me.

  • @Inustar and then s/he dosnt know what gender he is but just assumes s/hes a guy, i know its done for comedy but i know where this is going.

  • @Inustar I'm more or less there as well. Some of his voice clips are wearing very thin for me, seeing as he's basically part of the UI. As well as that one, Morgana saying, "Come oooooonnnn" whenever I talk to the Iwai the weapons guy is very frustrating.

  • @Haru17 Morgana is upset with your lack of guts. Seriously, come onnnnnnn.

  • @SabotageTheTruth I got that. I've played, like, a flash RPG with stats before, lol. It's just annoying since there is no way to buy equipment but going through that dialogue. Sort of like Beedle. Like, there are other menus in Persona 5 with options before entering into the store, like Takemi.

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    God that battle theme is too good. Quick someone sync it to the dancing KFC guy.

  • @DMCMaster Carrying on the legacy of P4, the battle theme is my favorite music that I've heard so far. Too good.

  • I was tired of Morgana hitting on Ann, so I introduced him to my kitty. They seem to be getting along pretty well so far.

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    I wish this wasn't so huge but I can't be bothered to resize.

  • I think the new tracks played at night a month or so in, and the trailer song put into palaces once their calling card has been sent are my favorite music so far. Changes to themes in familiar and areas are the most powerful IMO. I look forward to the game doing more of those as it progresses.

  • So glad I got the Heart edition, the OST sampler alone was enough to justify the price...No to hope the full OST gets a western release via normal channels (Itunes, Amazon, ect)

  • @SabotageTheTruth Glad it worked out between your cat and Morgana. I tried to introduce my cat to Morgana, and she just smacked him to the ground repeatedly.

  • I have no intension of looking through 185 posts to see if this has been posted, so I will post it nonetheless.

    Youtube Video

  • So. I was sick most of the weekend, and called in today. So now I have 60 hours into this game. I do have to go back to work tomorrow.

  • @TokyoSlim 60!!!! i thought i had alot at 17

  • @FF7Cloud I went in having finished the first palace dungeon at about 11 hours. I am now on palace dungeon 5.
    I am about to make "Best Girl" decision for play through number one!

  • @Fridge-man A certain amazing fellow posted this earlier.. but I still watch it multiple times daily.

    Loving pretty much everything about the 4th palace. That is all.