Persona 5 (PS4/PS3)

  • @bard91

    i just read online that the game ended at christmas

  • @FF7Cloud

    that much is true, but Sae's palace is definitively not the end

  • I maxed the Takemi and Ohya confidants, and their voice acting suddenly cutting back in after not being present since you first met them was really jarring. It didn't fit the images I had developed of those characters from their writing and sound effects in my head up to that point. It worked much better for the main cast because amid their confidant ranks you're still hearing them talk in the main quest, and reading their non-generic 'come over here' text conversations, where it makes sense for them not to be voiced. Due to the non-main character confidants only having a whole maybe two voiced conversations, they had no chance to fall into their characters like Ryuji / Ann / etc and their performances suffered for it.

    This is not an argument against voice acting of course — quite the opposite. AAA games — especially linear games like Persona that aren't open world — should be fully voiced in most if not all cases. Doing this half step stuff like Xenoblade and Zelda only cheapens the game overall. All those unvoiced conversations are just the character moments 'not important enough to be voiced.' By the same measure, silent protagonists should end. Persona's storytelling could be improved a lot by having a defined character in the player character chair — especially with a story where the protagonist has a history like P5.

    It's just... damn, why do some of the best games this year have to have such lethargic voice acting budgets?

  • @Haru17 A very fair complaint even if I didn't find it as offensive as you did.One aspect of the VA that bothered me more was the repetition of voices for background characters, I found it jarring to hear a random person have the same voice as one of the confidants.

  • @bard91 I think the worst instance of that was in Takemi's quest:

    When you finally meet the little girl she had been working to cure, she has the same, pretty bad voice actor as the young boy confidant. That happened after I had met him, so it really threw a cloud over that scene for me.

  • @Haru17 yep that was a easily the lowpoint of all that I've heard

  • I just sent the calling card for 3rd palace (I'm like 33hrs in too!)

    So far how I feel about the characters

    I like Ryuji though I didn't at first, but I've maxed his SL and he's grown on me quite a lot

    Ann has also grown on me a lot, I'm around SL 7 for her, I don't think I'll romance her, but I enjoy her as a character and like Ryuji, I didn't like her at first

    Morgana is pretty awesome, much better than Teddy

    Yusuke might be my least favorite in the entire series (never played P1). I originally thought he was a girl in promotional artwork and gameplay video. I've only started his SL, he might grow on me like the others, but I like him less than I did with the other two at first

    Makoto seems pretty cool. She's the one I'll probably most likely romance (though if I can the maid or doctor, I might go for them instead). I understand her struggles and I like her personality. I thought Sae was her mom actually.

    I like the politician and the maid and doctor. Really good social links. Not sure how I feel about the reporter, only on level 2 or 3 for her. I'm gonna do the fortune teller soon, got enough money saved up after the 3rd palace.

  • WELP. A lot of story stuff just happened. A lot.

    I just finished the 6th palace, so if you're not there yet, steer clear compadres!

    I didn't trust Akechi from the start, but having him join up made me trust him, a little. It's a shame you only get one palace with him because he was the perfect 4th party member for my team (replaced Ann). The plan everyone pulled off to fool him was... extremely elaborate, almost to the point where I don't think the group as a whole could have possibly considered all the outcomes and possibilities. I had to stop where the team needs to find information about Shido's palace so maybe we get revenge on Akechi or maybe he joins back up for... reasons but I just have bad luck in picking 'favorite' party members. They usually end up dying (Shinji in P3) or they turn out to be evil.

  • @ACardAttack Yusuke isn't my favorite, but he grows on you, a bit. At least he did for me.

    Least favorite in the series though? It has to go to this piece of work.

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  • @SabotageTheTruth

    I actually liked Ken, not the most memorable, but not as awful as people make him out to be. He had a tough life and he's a kid

  • @ACardAttack His actions led to the death of a character... Kinda deplorable, kid or not.

  • @SabotageTheTruth Yeah Ken probably takes that place for me too, I don't see the problem people have with Yusuke really.

    What really made me dislike Ken the most was the female route on P3P, holy shit did that got creepy

  • @SabotageTheTruth

    You mean the

    The guy who killed his mom? Can't blame Ken for that. Apparently Ken shows a little more remorse in the Japanese version as well.

  • @ACardAttack That's right everyone, we've got Persona 3 spoilers going on now!

    Shinji didn't kill Ken's mom on purpose, his Persona was out of control and he couldn't handle it, hence him becoming addicted to the sedatives. Everyone was well aware of Shinji's intent yet even with that knowledge, Ken lured him to an alley with a gun intended to kill Shinji and then himself. Granted things didn't turn out exactly like that but Ken's actions and lust for vengence put Shinji in that position. I've got no sympathy for the little punk. If he shows more remorse in the Japanese version, then maybe it's a bit better but ugh, I never used him in battle for killing off one of my favorite characters.

  • @SabotageTheTruth

    There's your problem with Ken, i didn't care for

    The person he got killed

  • Not about the game itself but definitively tied to its success, here's an article with some insight into the recent changes Atlus is making to grow the company.

  • This game made me even happier today, and I wasn't even playing it.

    My best friend from work is a gamer, but hasn't played JRPGs since the SNES days and for the most part dislikes anime (with a few exceptions here and there).

    Naturally whenever we talk about games I eventually end up bringing Persona, and his response has always been dismissive and mockery (in a good friends kinda way), similarly whenever anime is brought up he proceeds to calling me a weeb and that sort stuff.

    After a lot of insistence and expressions of hype from my part I managed to convince him to play the PS3 version (which I lent to him), so finally last week I gave him the game, which he mentioned he would start on the weekend.

    First thing after he comes to the office he comes up to me and tells me:

    "I played 20 hours over the weekend. That game is so good"

    All I'm gonna say is that it feels good, it feels oh sooooo good.

  • im doing the dark maze section in the 6th palace and im starting to get frustrated

  • @FF7Cloud Using the Third Eye makes it a breeze.

  • @SabotageTheTruth its the enemies they always gets crits and 1 hit the protag why does it have to be automatic game over if i still have 3 other party members.