(No Spoilers) It's unfair to say Persona 5 is better than FFXV



  • @Yoshi It's part of the same series and uses similar themes, demons, and mechanics (such as negotiations). The reason for the split is SMT games tend to involve the apocalypse (Persona doesn't) and there's a shift in telling a more character driven story with Persona.

    Also a bit bummed you dodged the question about how many hours you put into FFXV and Persona 5. A person wouldn't call them lesser games without having actually played them... right?

    Interesting unrelated fact - if you google "smug Bloodworth" pictures of Kyle Bosman appear first. That ain't right.



  • @SabotageTheTruth said in (No Spoilers) It's unfair to say Persona 5 is better than FFXV:

    Also a bit bummed you dodged the question about how many hours you put into FFXV and Persona 5. A person wouldn't call them lesser games without having actually played them... right?

    that's such a stupid argument "you HAVE to play something in order to be able to judge it".

    no i don't. i don't need to play every single COD game to know that they are all basically the same shit with a different skin and that they're shit. you've played one COD you'v played them all.

    i'm not going to waste my time playing EVERY single game thats out there just so i can say which game is better than another



  • @Yoshi I just don't believe there's any value in commenting in a thread specifically about two games you haven't played and have no interest in playing. "Don't knock it until you try it," is a cliche because well... it's true. You can absolutely judge something at face value but that's a shallow representation of the product as a whole. When the conversation revolves around the specifics of two titles that can't be ascertained from trailers alone, antagonizing both games with no true knowledge of either doesn't add any value to the discussion. If you want to talk about the merits of Xenoblade, I'd suggest creating your own topic and starting a conversation there.

    One other thing I wanted to touch on briefly about FFXV that I'm ashamed I didn't mention earlier is the proposed patch of story that is supposed to be coming out soon. While I do like the fact they recognized a lot of people had issues with the story as a whole (especially a specific chapter), I hope this doesn't set a precedent for the rest of the industry. The idea that those playing the game on release are missing out on story elements feels... bad. As long as it's a situation that sticks to FFXV and doesn't spread, I'm all for it.



  • @Yoshi said in (No Spoilers) It's unfair to say Persona 5 is better than FFXV:

    @SabotageTheTruth said in (No Spoilers) It's unfair to say Persona 5 is better than FFXV:

    Also a bit bummed you dodged the question about how many hours you put into FFXV and Persona 5. A person wouldn't call them lesser games without having actually played them... right?

    that's such a stupid argument "you HAVE to play something in order to be able to judge it".

    no i don't. i don't need to play every single COD game to know that they are all basically the same shit with a different skin and that they're shit. you've played one COD you'v played them all.

    i'm not going to waste my time playing EVERY single game thats out there just so i can say which game is better than another

    Just to make one thing clear. There's a diffence between having an opinion and an educated opinion. For example, until you've actually played something it's all theoretical.
    To use CoD as an example, I haven't been interested in CoD since 4 (and to a smaller degree, MW2). I thought all the games looked like something I would no longer enjoy. However I was gifted Black Ops 3 and after playing it I actually enjoyed myself quite a bit and can safely say that it's not what I expected.

    Having knowledge and experience about the things you're discussing has value, both to you and the other people you're discussing it with.
    Using the logic of "well I don't need to play something to know it's shit" is dangerously close to some 4chan shitposting.



  • @Yoshi then maybe you shouldn't waste time making baseless comparisons between things you have no direct experience with?

    If everyone just spills out their opinion everywhere with no interest of backing it with any sort of arguments or perspectives, well that wouldn't make for a very attractive forum, and wouldn't be much more than the equivalent of virtual shouting matches.



  • @SabotageTheTruth or maybe Xenoblade is just that good that i don't need to play anything else to know they won't measure up to its greatness. and yes that includes Xenoblade 2 :3



  • @Yoshi said in (No Spoilers) It's unfair to say Persona 5 is better than FFXV:

    @SabotageTheTruth or maybe Xenoblade is just that good that i don't need to play anything else to know they won't measure up to its greatness. and yes that includes Xenoblade 2 :3

    Using that logic Xenoblade isn't very good because I have played amazing JRPGs before it that Xenoblade could never even come close to. I don't need to have played Xenoblade to know this.



  • @suplextrain i am a god though. my opinion means everything an everyone else's opinions matter little. :3



  • @Yoshi said in (No Spoilers) It's unfair to say Persona 5 is better than FFXV:

    @suplextrain i am a god though. my opinion means everything an everyone else's opinions matter little. :3

    If you want to take the sarcastic route instead of realizing that you could be wrong about something then go right ahead. The only one that loses and doesn't grow as a person is you, after all.



  • @suplextrain oh that wasn't sarcasm. :3



  • @Yoshi is xenoblade you favorite rpg? or is it the only one you've played ;P



  • @FF7Cloud just because i haven't played your little persona and FF15 games doesn't mean i haven't played other RPGs



  • Lol what the hell is happening in here? Did the true villain just reveal himself?



  • @Yoshi i know, im teasing you