Kill Your Babies!: Cut Out the Current Classics!



  • As the countdown of lists and rounds keeps ticking down, the more entertaining these become. Now let's put an end to most of the defining games of the last seven years!

    As always, just in case there are new players, here are the rules:

    Rule #1: When you make a kill, give your reason why you are killing. Just taking it out isn't all that inspiring. Whether you truly dislike it, you strike out of revenge, you feel that there are other important titles that should have made it, or you have legitimate critiques, explaining your kill is necessary to validate its death. Yes, even to those of you who kill because they're good (Because that makes sense =-D)

    Rule #2: Please keep the updated list for the benefit of other players. Cross through your kill to identify what's been chosen.

    Rule #3: You may kill another game after only four other people have made a kill OR if 12 hours have passed from the last overall kill (not necessarily your own). This should be plenty of time for others to get involved.

    Rule #4: If you fail to give a reason, make a 2nd kill without allowing the time to pass/proper amount of players a turn, or if there is an unforeseen issue up for potential review, your kill may not be recognized. This rule is subjective to the situation and hopefully will not be implemented.

    Rule #5: Per normal, we will have a straw poll for the final two. Please vote for the one you want to win, not lose.

    Let me know if you have any questions. Your kills are your own, so be ruthless, uncompromising, and most importantly:

    HAVE FUN!!!

    Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
    NieR Automata
    Rayman Origins
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Civilization V
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn


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    Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
    NieR Automata
    Rayman Origins
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Civilization V
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Never bin much of a fan of Rayman, run and jump platforming doesn't keep me entertained for long



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Civilization V
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    This is a solid list with lots of great games I love. Sadly, Ghost Trick has a mountain to climb in that regard, so I have to start the trimming from it. Maybe in another life (brotha).



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Civilization V
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    It's not even that I necessarily dislike A Link Between Worlds, but it's the clearly inferior Zelda game on the list.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Civilization V
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Even though the base game is good, it needed expansions to be the Amazing game it is now. Civ 6 was easily superior on launch.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Actually tough for me to choose between this and Bloodborne. I've been playing it recently, and well it's just GTA technically good, but ultimately boring.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Undertale
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Just not my cup of tea.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Hyper Light Drifter
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    I, too, got served a wrong flavor of tea with this one. The overall design and aesthetic representation somehow makes me keep my distance. I mean it's not ugly, but...
    And too much purple! (I said this not too long ago in another KYB thread as well about something.)



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Mass Effect 2
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Bioware games have never been interesting for me, despite trying multiple. This one is known as the "height" of the franchise and yet after several hours, I couldn't find myself caring about a single character.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    MGS V: The Phantom Pain
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    It's the only MGS I can't bring myself to finish. I find it such a disappointing way for the series to end.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Last of Us
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    TLOU is an 8 out of 10, which isn't an insult, but means it has a long way to go compared to some of the stuff it's gotta fight on this list.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Dude Raider has never been able to hold my attention for very long. It might be a personal problem, I'll admit, but I gotta kill it.



  • Yakuza 5
    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Yakuza gamrs have a lot of great things, but also a lot of shortcomings that are difficult to ignore



  • XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    South Park: The Stick of Truth
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    South Park: The Stick of Truth is way better than it deserves to be. It's such a faithful adaptation of the show. Unfortunately, it's pretty short and never challenging, with some rather shallow RPG mechanics. Hopefully the second game fixes these issues.



  • XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Papers Please
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    I feel like I have complicated enough feelings about this one to actually write something kinda sizable, so here goes. Papers Please was one of the first games I remember that came from an indie, art-driven, politically charged background to receive major attention and praise from mainstream gaming news outlets. Theoretically, this should make me really happy. Indie, politically charged "art games" are kind of my wheelhouse as a gamer (or at least a strong component of it). Its commercial and critical success also proved that these types of games deserve an amount of recognition that was rarely afforded to them beforehand. However, I still feel the lingering traces of salt that come with this: the game to get the most mainstream recognition from this loosely-defined genre isn't the best. In fact, not even close to it. Papers Please was overall decent at unifying mechanics, art direction, audio design, and message to communicate the soul-crushing tedium of being a border control officer. Where I take issue is that the game tries to get you to confront the people you accept or deny access to as complex individuals by denying access to any other human beings. Representing your home status with one-word text descriptions matches the rest of the game's stark tone, but it also makes it easy to forget about the humanity of the family you're working to help support. This takes a lot away from the moral decision implicit in the core mechanics, since weighing consequences becomes less of a factor. For me, this simplification killed a lot of the game's potential, and it's not really the kind of game that you play for the sheer fun factor. I found myself unable to play for more than a few minutes at a time because of the harshness communicated in the visual style.



  • XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Gemini Rue
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Personally I'm not a huge fan of these types of games, and this doesn't feel to be so special to be competeting against other games on this list.



  • XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    NieR Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Rocket League
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    Just not my cup of tea



  • Updated list:

    XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    We had a lot of zombies come up, I took 'em down!



  • XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    One of them has to die, right?



  • XCOM: Enemy Unknown
    Persona 5
    Divinity: Original Sin
    The Witcher 3
    Nier Automata
    Batman: Arkham City
    Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    Red Dead Redemption
    Civilization 6
    Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
    Bloodborne
    Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    Horizon Zero Dawn

    It's pretty okay but pretty okay ain't good enough.