Cup of Jones Episode Guide

  • Echoing what everyone else has said: Jones handled this immaculately. The only thing I'll add is that I hope everyone else treats the issue much the same way.

    Perhaps this is being too forgiving, but I have to give that user the benefit of the doubt, and assume that maybe they really didn't know better, and thought it was fine to push the envelope. Obviously they pushed it way too far, which is why we're talking about it now. I get why people are calling for the ban-hammer, and that this person shouldn't be in the community, but I think that would be doing everyone - especially Jones - a disservice. Jones chose to give this person a second chance, and explain why what they did was hurtful. We should allow them to digest that information and try to learn from their mistakes. If they continue to act inappropriately, that's another story, but I don't think we should immediately call that person out now and tell them to get lost, or that they're not welcome here. Maybe they won't change, but if we forever shun them, then I think it's much less likely that they'll actually change their point of view, or their mindset. We have to allow them to respond, and at least make an effort. As someone who's been on both sides of a similar issue (although one with much less viscerally disturbing imagery), I just want to say that people can change if you give them a chance.

  • @iboshow I don't really see how it's painting a target on their back. Jones explained himself extremely well and never actually said anything along the lines of getting the community to hound this person.

  • @tokeeffe9 I agree but some people are now going to think of this guy differently etc. The guy had 10 replies on patreon alone. Does Jones really have to tell people to attack the guy for it to be a target, people will do it no matter what.

  • @iboshow But people should think of this person differently. It's up to them to realise what they were doing was inappropriate and make amends.

  • Basically, @naltmank summed up my thoughts pretty perfectly. Apologies I'm a little late to this entire discussion, I've been behind on my EZA log lately.

    I think the best approach to this entire situation is "forgive but don't forget." Should I ever see this person in the forum or see them submit more art for one of Kyle's streams, there's absolutely no way I can forget the comment they supplied to Jones. There should always be some form of consequence for your actions, even if that consequence is just having a bit of a reputation. Now, would I take it to the next level and purposely be rude or bring up this particular incident? Not at all. Jones handled this matter in such a beautiful way that I would never want to go against his apparent wishes. With Jones' heartfelt response, I truly hope he receives an apology from the person in question and everyone can move forward.

    I've got to say though, I truly admire how Jones embodied the mantra of "love and respect" in his response, despite how hard and potentially painful that must have been. It's nice to get a fresh reminder of what it truly means, even if the circumstances leading up to it aren't the greatest.

  • Just checked the schedule. New Cup of Jones on Thursday this week? Wouldn't have remembered that, was it announced at some point? I mean I was ready to settle in in an hour.

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    @sentinel-beach I think it was said on twitter

    But not other than that and Blood mentionend it in twitch chat.

  • Yeah, they tweeted about it half an hour later. It was on their scedule already earlier, though I don't know how long. 'Til Thursday, then.

  • Finally got the time to check out last week's episode. And sweet heavens, did I LOVE that Hall of Greats rant or what! :D Jones, you lovely lovely man. I share many of your thoughts. That shade on Nintendo platformers and adventures, Paper Mario especially. Also pre-emptive shade on Secret of Mana. :D "I don't need your pity." This was just so honest and beautiful, I laughed and giggled so much. Thank you Jones! And best of luck. :)

  • Truly wonderful news from Jones and Amanda! :)