Kill Your Babies! (Exhibition): Kill MY Babies (Part 1)!



  • We've come to the final two Exhibitions before the final list and FINALLY I'm going to provide a list that I'm sure you'll like. For a year, I've sat and watched kills upon kills. Conversations that keyed me onto what you enjoy and more aptly what you can't stand. All the while, I've been chided for pitting you all against each other.

    Now, I think it's time to give you all something you have earned and deserved: Sweet, sweet retribution.

    Provided is MY list of characters IN ORDER from 1-30. It's not EXACTLY the same as the list from the community thread as a character has been released since I've quite enjoyed, so they made it on.

    Go. Nuts.

    As always, just in case there are new players, here are the rules:

    Rule #1: When you make a kill, give your reason why you are killing. Just taking it out isn't all that inspiring. Whether you truly dislike the character, you strike out of revenge, you feel that there are other important entries that should have made it, or you have legitimate critiques, explaining your kill is necessary to validate its death. Yes, even to those of you who kill because they're good (Because that makes sense =-D)

    Rule #2: Please keep the updated list for the benefit of other players. Cross through your kill to identify what's been chosen.

    Rule #3: You may kill another entry after only four other people have made a kill OR if 12 hours have passed from the last overall kill (not necessarily your own). This should be plenty of time for others to get involved.

    Rule #4: If you fail to give a reason, make a 2nd kill without allowing the time to pass/proper amount of players a turn, or if there is an unforeseen issue up for potential review, your kill may not be recognized. This rule is subjective to the situation and hopefully will not be implemented.

    Rule #5: Per normal, we will have a straw poll for the final two. Please vote for the one you want to win, not lose.

    Let me know if you have any questions. Your kills are your own, so be ruthless, uncompromising, and most importantly:

    HAVE FUN!!!

    (The order is listed from 1-30)

    Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Vincent Valentine – Final Fantasy VII
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Nathan Drake – Uncharted series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Dominic Santiago – Gears of War series
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Clank – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Joel – The Last of Us
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Vincent Valentine – Final Fantasy VII
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Nathan Drake – Uncharted series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Dominic Santiago – Gears of War series
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Clank – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Joel – The Last of Us
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    see previous thread as to why I'm killing this horrible character



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Vincent Valentine – Final Fantasy VII
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Dominic Santiago – Gears of War series
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Clank – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Joel – The Last of Us
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    Gears of War characters look ridiculous, and I see no reason to keep any of them on this list any longer than necessary.



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Vincent Valentine – Final Fantasy VII
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Clank – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Joel – The Last of Us
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    Vincent is the worst. I'd list VII companions who are better, but the list is literally everyone else. I don't HATE him, but he's way too high on this list to live.

    Sorry bruh.



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Clank – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Joel – The Last of Us
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    Killing Joel twice? Oh baby! There are very few instances where I have strong negative opinions about characters or games. I'm usually pretty ambivalent about stuff that I don't love, so I don't typically feel this good about making a kill and now I got to do it two games in a row! Thanks @Brannox ! :)



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Clank – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    I've always liked the R&C games, but Clank's pretty much always been just boring, useless and even irritating (that laugh of his, aargh). Ratchet's not much better, now that I think about it. A second-class duo when compared to Jak & Daxter.



  • @TokyoSlim Apologies? When I give free rein to massacre my beloveds?! I will have no such compassion recognized when this is supposed to be a slaughterfest (Seriously, your reasons are your reasons. Go for it ;-) )!

    @logic__error Sure! More than happy to see someone delighted in some small sense by these. And as I said: Curating these for as long as I have, it only feels right that you should.

    Everyone else: (Thumbs up emoji here)



  • @Brannox if it makes you feel any better, it was with only the bare minimum of sincerity.



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Ellie – The Last of Us
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    Joel wasn't around to teach her how to shoot and survive :(



  • @TokyoSlim Not gonna lie: Kind of surprised there was any to begin with in these threads. And not really. X-)



  • The sad joke about video games is that — after you kill off the cast of The Last of Us in your reckless hate — you have like no great characters left.

    Not that these are bad, but I doubt that any of the Mass Effect social links could hold up a whole game on their own — they were written to have short, individual stories.



  • Thane Krios game would instantly be better than Andromeda



  • @Haru17 I would still call most of this list great characters. It's apples and oranges, Captain Price may not have had the screen time or complex narrative that Sephiroth did, but he's still great in his role.



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Victor Sullivan – Uncharted series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    the naughty dog characters that are worth a damn are already gone



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Marcus Fenix – Gears of War series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    Might as well begin purging Gears. Never really got into any of the characters.



  • @Haru17 I disagree. Last of us isn't a long game and most of it is spent getting from point A to B while killing bad guys in between. Not sure how Joel is more interesting then some of the characters from the ME trilogy and some of their short stories that probably still span the same amount time as the story in Last of Us. What makes him interesting? that he has a tragic story? Because i don't personally find him all that interesting. Not that the story was bad.



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    Tali’zorah vas Neema/Normandy – Mass Effect series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    She distracted me from Miranda.



  • Auron – Final Fantasy X
    Garrus Vakarian – Mass Effect series
    Cloud Strife – Final Fantasy VII
    Elena Fisher – Uncharted series
    Zack Fair – Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII & Final Fantasy VII
    Sephiroth – Final Fantasy VII
    Ratchet – Ratchet & Clank series
    Cid Highwind – Final Fantasy VII
    Urdnot Wrex – Mass Effect series
    Augustus Cole – Gears of War series
    GlaDos – Portal 1 & 2
    Thane Krios – Mass Effect series
    Mordin Solus – Mass Effect series
    Red XIII – Final Fantasy VII
    Captain Price – Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Kratos – God of War series
    Commander/Admiral Anderson – Mass Effect series
    Aloy – Horizon: Zero Dawn
    Sora – Kingdom Hearts series
    Lara Croft – Tomb Raider series (2013 iteration)
    Sly Cooper – Sly Cooper series

    On top of my last point, I think that Gears of War series is overrated.



  • @CGamor7 17 hours was a long game before everything became open world and we lost perspective. And they're bantering or talking that entire time, give or take some side characters they meet along the way. Compare that to a movie and there's no way their feelings and relationships would fit within just three hours. You should play the game again and look for the little details in their writing and performances if you want to understand why Joel and Ellie are so great.

    @Lauren Yeah, but I think a character has to be complex to be great. A straight villain like Ganondorf performs his role well, but I wouldn't call any JRPG boss like that 'great.' Even Persona has some simple antagonists.



  • @Haru17 I agree that games can do a better job at character development. However, Ive played the game already, and i don't feel like he was that interesting to be classified a top 10 character. I was asking you what makes him interesting. Its your opnion not mine.