HoG's Flawed Rule



  • Wasn't upset by it as much as concerned it was something you hadn't considered that could be used to influence the results, an 'error' that wasn't meant to be there, etc, okay that's technically still upset by it but at least now I know it was somewhat intentional to raise the stakes and add another layer of strategy instead of over a possible oversight. Guess I lose either way, will continue to watch (and care) :-)

    Keep the curve balls coming.
    L&R.



  • @Bosman Please don't change the voting system.



  • @Bosman said in HoG's Flawed Rule:

    I think what is important to remember is that the Hall of Greats is meant to be an entertaining stream first and foremost. If we truly cared to make the most fair list of greatest games possible, we would do it off stream where no voices could interfere and there wouldn't be any speeches. So yes, I think this could technically be gamed--long cons, backstabbing, sinister alliances--but I'm not concerned about that ever translating into undeserving games getting inducted into the Hall of Greats. If you had everyone vote before the speeches and cross examinations, I believe the results would be identical to those afterward (except for Brad's weird choice to change his Wow vote), but those elements are what make this a fun thing to watch.
    The fact that World of Warcraft--easily one of the greatest games of all time--is banned for a year adds stakes to this. There are consequences. If people are upset about that, I'm actually happy. It means they care. As logic__error suggested, I think drama is good. That said, I will definitely devise a new voting system for next time.

    I would've made the bans even longer, it'd force everyone to really make a strong case for their games and in turn also shake up the pool of possible picks so it's not just the same games over and over.

    Bad enough Bloodworth pulled SF2 lol


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    @ZyloWolfBane said in HoG's Flawed Rule:

    Bad enough Bloodworth pulled SF2 lol

    People bring this up like I just played dirty or something. I picked SF2 cause it's one of the greats, and I thought it should be in there regardless of who represented it. Since my pick beat it last time, it only felt right to carry the torch rather than have the same person try to go for it again. I honestly was a bit nervous that I could really do it justice.



  • Thought you picking Street Fighter 2 was great. It was like, honorable, ironic, funny and strategic all at the same time... and that level of strategy was something I was hoping would've been the limit of what was possible over the course of these inductions. Seeing what further strategic moves are possible now should, whether I agree with them or not, should be very interesting :-)



  • @Bloodworth said in HoG's Flawed Rule:

    @ZyloWolfBane said in HoG's Flawed Rule:

    Bad enough Bloodworth pulled SF2 lol

    People bring this up like I just played dirty or something. I picked SF2 cause it's one of the greats, and I thought it should be in there regardless of who represented it. Since my pick beat it last time, it only felt right to carry the torch rather than have the same person try to go for it again. I honestly was a bit nervous that I could really do it justice.

    Oh I know, I'm just stirring the pot. No offense intended lol.

    It was amusing as it was cause you haven't ever struck me as the fighting game type of person yet you presented a thought out case. Only thing missing was a character winning pose ;)



  • I'm a big fighting game fan, so I was glad to see SF2 get its rightful spot. I do kind of wish that a specific version were chosen, though, just for clarity's sake. I would argue that the different versions of SF2 were fully-separate games in contrast to a nominee like World of Warcraft where the different releases of content were expansions requiring the base game to play. To my knowledge, you couldn't upgrade the arcade versions to the newer versions either and were completely separate cabinets as opposed to a game like SF4 and other modern arcade fighting games that allow you to upgrade to a newer version. I did a little research on this to confirm but please correct me if I'm wrong.

    In my eyes, the SF2 nomination would be specifically for either World Warrior since it was the first and biggest jump from the original Street Fighter game, or for Super Turbo since it is considered the culmination of all the previous versions and, essentially, the best version of SF2.



  • @ZyloWolfBane I agree with a year even being too soft, besides it encourages diversity and people coming up with quality contenders and good arguments.



  • Ben's passionate Valkyria speech was beautiful and completely justifies the format imo.

    It only got one point but it also got my heart ;_;



  • I definitely love this ban rule and thought it was implemented perfectly. It immediately added more stakes to the proceedings than the first stream originally had. If someone doesn't care for it, very obviously they are salty about Sim City 4 getting banned. Those sweet graphs will be back in a year, don't you worry.

    Really though, much love to Ian for nominating one of my favorite games of all time. So close to getting in as well! Hopefully SOTN gets its rightful spot next time.