Switch Online Services & Voice Chat



  • I could be wrong, but maybe they're trying to keep applications off the system so it remains smooth and fast? I don't want it to become like my PS4, it's unbearable these days.

    Not defending it, I think it's absurd that VC works this way, but just wondering why.

    I'm starting to wonder if they will even have Netflix or YouTube and other apps on the switch, which I'm perfectly fine not having because I like it the way it is just fine. I have other devices for that. But the fact you use your cell phone for voice chat and party finding maybe means that they probably view Netflix and YouTube type apps as something you can use on your phone as well. Unless it's been stated all these things are already coming, then this comment is completely pointless lol.

    @suplextrain despite Nintendo's method here and continuing to do things that make people go huh? the switch is a really great console. Im really enjoying it. So it would be to bad for you or anyone else to write it off because of voice chat.



  • @CGamor7 said in Switch Online Services & Voice Chat:

    So it would be to bad for you or anyone else to write it off because of voice chat.

    I'm not writing off the switch just because of voicechat. The system has no appeal to me (no use for a big portable system that can't even fit into a pocket), as a home console it's massively underpowered, and the library does absolutely nothing for me (I got burned out on Mario and Zelda years ago).

    I repeatedly try and give Nintendo chances to pull me back in, but instead they keep tripping up. It's annoying since I used to love Nintendo as a kid.


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    @suplextrain They actually got it right a while ago. Anybody remember the mic for the DS?

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    This is how misguided the management is at Nintendo. Somehow they have managed to fuck this up.

    Then again, we probably shouldn't expect much from the company that actively tells it's employees to ignore Xbox Live and PSN when creating their own online infrastructure 6 months before they release a console.



  • @suplextrain said:

    Making excuses for Nintendo for at least making tiny babysteps, eventually, is wrong. The more people defend them and try and smooth things over the less Nintendo will "try".

    I'm not making excuses. I'm saying I'm glad they're actually trying now. I'm not defending this horrible functionality either. I'm saying people need to step up and tell Nintendo this is bad and why it's bad, so they can fix it next time. It's not "welp they screwed this up, it's done forever". They can either fix the app into a usable state or try again next time. Maybe they're listening, maybe not. Just scream at them louder, through social media and those surveys.

    @CGamor7 Japan has NicoNico on the Switch now, so Youtube should be coming.

    @suplextrain said:

    (I got burned out on Mario and Zelda years ago)

    I hope you didn't hop in during New Super Mario Bros. and Skyward Sword.

    @El-Shmiablo said:

    Then again, we probably shouldn't expect much from the company that actively tells it's employees to ignore Xbox Live and PSN when creating their own online infrastructure 6 months before they release a console.

    Is that a real thing or are you just kinda starting rumors?



  • @Mbun said in Switch Online Services & Voice Chat:

    I'm saying people need to step up and tell Nintendo this is bad and why it's bad, so they can fix it next time.

    People have done so for some time now. For this specifically people were pretty vocal right when it was announced. This is on Nintendo.
    Also I don't care enough about Nintendo to try and be vocal about a product I don't even own and I think that's the case for many people. I generally only give my constructive criticism once (to the right people) unless I'm invested/interested in the product. After that I leave it in the hand of the devs or people in charge.

    I hope you didn't hop in during New Super Mario Bros. and Skyward Sword.

    I have friends that buy the Nintendo systems. I tried Mario Galaxy and Skyward Sword (amongst other titles) and was pretty underwhelmed. For this gen I have played Breath of the Wild and it underwhelmed me as well. BotW has had many things that annoy me as well (breakable weapons, clunky UI, quantity over quality design, etc) so it probably didn't help my experience with that game.

    Its's not that I hate Nintendo and their franchises, I just don't care about them one way or the other. They're just another company to me.


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    @Mbun http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story

    "At some point in this conversation we were informed that it was no good referencing Live and PSN as nobody in [Nintendo's] development teams used those systems (!) so could we provide more detailed explanations for them?"



  • @El-Shmiablo said in Switch Online Services & Voice Chat:

    we were informed that it was no good referencing Live and PSN as nobody in [Nintendo's] development teams used those systems

    That's honestly pretty dumb. It makes sense for you to look at what the competition is doing. I'd even go so far as to call it common sense.
    Then again I'm not surprised. Nintendo is infamous for living in their bubble.



  • @suplextrain said:

    BotW has had many things that annoy me as well (clunky UI)

    Just flip on Pro HUD and you're good to go. Gets rid of all the junk that's already communicated to you through other means.

    @El-Shmiablo This is from 2014 about the Wii U. Who knows if it's even relevant anymore.


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    @Mbun It is 2017 and Nintendo's newest platform requires a phone and special adapter to use voice chat. It is clearly relevant, as Nintendo are clearly still developing inside of a bubble.

    What scares me is that the bubble seems to extend to even their own internal development. Like I already pointed out, how the everloving fuck do you do voice chat right on a handheld from 2 generations ago and manage to fuck it up on your main platform 15 years later.?



  • @El-Shmiablo said:

    requires a phone and special adapter to use voice chat

    Wrong, it just requires the phone.


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    @Mbun Oh so the app automatically integrates the voice and game sound together?
    That is great, if that is the case.
    But it isn't.
    So back to square one.



  • @El-Shmiablo You don't need a mixer or a headset at all. Just set your phone down next to you and talk. That's the whole point of this damn system since they didn't want to require people to carry a bulky gaming headset around on the go with their Switch.



  • @Mbun But they advertise a device to connect to a bulky headset and the switch which can only be used when the switch is portable, from my understanding.

    It's a mess really.

    I guess the only saving grace for me is I've absolutely no interest in playing nintendo games online. Of course, that's their fault too but still.


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    @Mbun oh boy I sure do live open air microphones. Hearing myself echo through another person's speakers (and vice versa) is my DREAM!

    Also, what year are you living in? I use my earbuds for gaming. Whats all this bulky gaming headset shit?

    Oh, you mean like this?

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  • @Mbun said in Switch Online Services & Voice Chat:

    Just flip on Pro HUD and you're good to go. Gets rid of all the junk that's already communicated to you through other means.

    I mean how clunky it is. For example having to manually go into the menu to select a new weapon every time it breakes.



  • The regular UI of Breath of the Wild was fine to good until you started doing dungeons and it turned into freaking Guitar Hero's star power stuff. It would be nice if they had added a way for people to view the mini map, use the hero powers, and not see all the glitter. It's also sucky and poorly designed that there are two pause menus like every open world game these days.

    I have never used PS4 voice chat in three years of owning one. IGN's Peer Schneider speculated that the app is to save battery in portable mode, which makes sense to some extent. I wish the Pro controller and Joy-Con grip had regular headphone ports though. That was like the single best feature of 8th gen.



  • @tokeeffe9 @El-Shmiablo The headset is a licensed third party promotional tie in for Splatoon 2. It looks like a headset that's in the game, and it's completely optional for those who want a headset now. They'll probably release less dinky ones later and if not I'm sure more third parties will jump on that. I've also heard that headset's mixer isn't very good, (which makes sense, because the headset is dirt cheap) so you might want to wait for a better one.

    @suplextrain said:

    having to manually go into the menu to select a new weapon every time it breakes

    You don't though. Just hit the D-Pad to select a new one. You can even do it with shields, bows, and arrows. Only armor requires going into the menu to change.

    @Haru17 I don't have a problem with anything, but the two pause menus thing could've been better yeah. It's the smallest complaint since the menuing is so fast though, and the alternate would've been flicking through even more screens to get to what you want if they combined them, so it wouldn't have saved any time versus opening the wrong one, then opening the right one.



  • @suplextrain nah man it's fine. just use Discord or Skype....... Like we've all been doing FOR THE LAST DECADE!!!!!