E3 2017 Bets Showdown


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    @Blacki138 It's funny how the contract debacle has caused everyone to take things extra-literally now. The intent was to encompass all of the personas.



  • Crisis on Infinite Allies



  • You heard it here first everyone,
    If @Bloodworth wins, he's erasing Persona from history! Nooooo!

    :p



  • Just imagining the video of each of them getting destroyed/frozen is enough to make me excited to see it. Now I'm really hoping for a game in the Chrono Trigger series to be announced.



  • i think Ultima Brad will win this year (again)



  • I want Ultima to win, and then in the next betting special, someone else also tries to erase the timeline, and Ultima just keeps winning, until they make a great battle with all of their powers combined against Ultima (and if they somehow end up losing again they just declare it the season finale and start over anyway :p )



  • @Bloodworth huh ok. Had me on edge there. Literally. :D



  • So, I have no idea why I thought of doing this, but I just wanted to point out that the answer to Double Down on Don is 1, not 0, but either way it's a clear victory for Ultima Brad!

    https://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10005.3-5.shtml



  • So far after EA
    How many letters will be in the first and last name of the final presenter with the most letters in their first and last name?
    Ultima Brad (UB): 10
    Cold Blooded (CB): 17

    EA Final Presenter is Patrick Soderlund 15 letters

    Double Down on Don (worth 2 times 2 (4) points)
    During the EA press conference when Madden NFL is shown, what is the value of X^Y?
    Where:
    X = However many times the ball carrier makes a spin maneuver
    Y = However many times the ball carrier makes a hurdle maneuver

    UB: 3^3 (= 27)
    CB: 5^3 (= 125)

    1^0=1

    For CB: Will Michael Jordan be shown in NBA Live?
    No

    UB: 4 points CB 3 points

    After Microsoft
    2 points
    BONUS: At the end of E3, what will the price difference between Project Scorpio and Playstation 4 Pro? If no price is announced, void this bet.
    UB: $50
    CB: $75
    SO FAR $100

    Degenerate Quartet
    Brand Manager
    For UB: Will the Scorpio controller have any changes other than color and insignia? (wagered 3)
    Yes
    NO
    -3

    For UB: Will Crackdown 3 be given a release date? (wagered 3)
    Yes
    YES
    +3

    Rainy Day Ian
    For UB: Will a coin be collected? (wagered 3)
    Yes
    YES
    +3

    The Rojo Caliente Gut Check Challenge (each worth 1 point)

    For UB: Will microsoft present a VR demonstration on stage?
    Yes
    NO
    -1
    For CB: Will there be a dragon in the Xbox press conference?
    Yes
    NO
    -1
    For CB: will an original Xbox-era Microsoft-owned franchised be revived?
    No
    NO
    +1
    For UB: Will there be falling snow in the reveal of the new Forza game?
    Yes
    NO
    -1
    For UB: If I'm typing out Project Scorpio's announced name, will I have to press the spacebar more than once?
    No
    YES
    -1

    UB: 5 points CB 5 points

    After Bethesda

    For CB: Will we hear Imagine Dragons on Sunday? (wagered 3)
    Yes
    NO
    -3

    For CB: Will we see a new playable character in a Evil Within sequel? (wagered 2)
    Yes
    NO
    -2

    For UB: Will there be an apparent love interest within the presentation for the new Wolfenstein?
    No
    YES
    -1

    UB: 4 points CB 0 points

    double jump 1

    After Ubisoft
    For UB: Will the final game presentation of Ubisoft's press conference feature violence?
    Yes
    YES
    +1

    UB: 5 points CB 0 points

    After Sony

    Excluding montages, at what time will Spider-man be shown?
    UB: 7:10
    CB: 8:30
    +2 UB

    Benzilla
    For UB: Will Shawn Layden wear a shirt featuring a video game character? (wagered 3)
    Yes
    -3

    More of a Sports Guy
    For CB: Will Wolverine reveal himself? (wagered 2)
    Yes
    No
    -2

    For CB: Will Mark Cerny speak?
    Yes
    No
    -1

    For CB: Will Kratos acquire a red orb?
    Yes
    NO
    -1

    For CB: Will Gundahar reveal himself?
    No
    NO
    +1

    For UB: Will Dante make a joke?
    No
    NO
    +1

    For UB: Will Spyro make a non-Skylanders appearance?
    No
    NO
    +1

    For CB: Will we see a licker's tongue?
    Yes
    NO
    -1

    For CB: Will Count Dooku be shown?
    No
    NO
    +1

    For UB: Will any fictional character apologize for keeping us waiting?
    No
    NO
    +1

    UB: 7 points CB -3 points

    For CB: Will we see a Belmont during the Nintendo Spotlight? (wagered 3)
    No
    NO
    +3
    For CB: Will Nintendo unveil a new peripheral for the Switch?
    No
    NO
    +1
    For UB: Will we see more than 4 unreleased games featuring a double jump?
    No
    NO
    +1
    For UB: Will we witness the death of a ninja?
    No
    NO
    +1
    For CB: Will Bowser speak a fully voice-acted complete sentence?
    No
    NO
    +1
    For CB: Will we see any men crying in a video game?
    No
    NO
    +1
    For UB: Will anyone on a bicycle fall over?
    No
    NO
    +1

    UB: 10 points CB 3 points



  • @Hazz3r Well, 0^0 is undefined (which the link you shared does mention), but their reasoning for why it "should" be 1 doesn't make sense, as undefined is exactly what 0^0 should be. 0^0 isn't defined any more than 0/0 isn't defined. The math student in me is not going to let this slide. Niether Ultima nor Coldblooded should get the point if there were non of either



  • Wow, I'm glad I didn't check this thread earlier, as there's all those calculations. Managed to hold the surprise for THIS, baby!

    Youtube Video



  • There are few things more entertaining than listening to Huber and Kyle go through betting results. Really enjoyed that video and the bonus bit at the end :)

    I cannot wait to see who Blood cosplays as. Get that fan Blood!



  • I love love love those betting specials! When can we expect the next one? Gamescom?

    Also I'm glad that Ultima Brad won because I enjoy all the other personas and it would have sucked to see them go! Guess we'll need a new number 1 contender match!



  • Oh great, another Dark Souls stream instead of Kyle and Huber doing the next betting special and getting rid of Ultima Brad's ultimately-bad character...



  • @Axel If Sony/Microsoft do a conference at Gamescom then they will do a betting special. If not we wait until TGS.



  • Did they do TGS last year? I thought they did something outside of the canon.



  • @Haru17 I think it was that thing where everybody were betting and Brad won to become the #1 contender against Huber (at PSX?). (And songs for Brad were written.)



  • There were a few aspects that irritated me about the recent betting specials. I apologize if this is too negative or it contradicts the notion of Love & Respect, but I felt the need to get these thoughts off my chest.

    1. It seems silly to me that EZA would use fictional characters rather than their actual selves that people know and love. Kyle made drama (with the Link to the Past controversy and the Trial of Kyle Bosman) by being HIS ACTUAL SELF, rather than a fictional character. They joked on the E3 2017 betting special that some of these characters would be seen at E3. No, they were not seen at the reactions. The people who were there were THE REAL ALLIES, not their fictional personas. While I loved the shtick when this was fully revealed at the Nintendo Switch Presentation bets special, I am skeptical about these characters because they are rarely shown within EZA content (outside of the betting special). While this is silly, absurd, and hilarious right now, it will get old soon. It will drop to mediocrity and Brad will keep doing his "embarrassing stunts", as Cold Blooded said.

    2. The plot device during the E3 2017 bets of Kyle and Huber wanting to "let them burn" is so superficial and redundant when you realize that Cold Blooded's stakes were to return the bets to the actual Allies themselves (and freeze the characters' timeline). I don't know if Kyle/Huber knew about Blood's stakes before he stated them on camera. If Kyle/Huber actually knew the stakes before filming, the "let them burn" plot line is irrelevant. Kyle and Huber wanted to let them burn, but Cold Blooded's stakes would have frozen all of these characters, making them suffer in redundancy (please don't rant to me about the difference between burns and freezing. Different context, same result). Also, Cold Blooded made some really stupid bets that contradict his fictitious personality. "Cold and calculated"? More like warm and hypothetical, am I right? Why would Mark Cerny speak? Why would Shawn Layden wear a t-shirt at an E3 press conference? Why would Spider-Man EVER be shown 2 HOURS AND 30 MINUTES after the Sony press conference? The fictional aspects of these characters and bets are why I wanted Cold Blooded to win, because these characters will get old after a certain period of time. I want the real Allies to come back (although Kyle, Huber, and Don were both there as themselves).

    3. The first thing that I saw on my Twitter homepage this morning, before I saw anything about the results show, was the EZA tweet about the betting special, and Kristen Rogers (Brad's girlfriend) spoiling the results in a reply by saying "Was there ever any doubt?". Those were the first two things I saw on my Twitter, and that infuriated me. I was trying my dang best to avoid spoilers, but this peeved me off. I doubt that Kristen intended to spoil (I know that she's just supporting her boyfriend here), but this still infuriated me nonetheless. I want Kristen to keep supporting Brad like that, but the timing of it could have been more appropriate to people who do not know the results at that immediate point in time.

    To conclude, I think that the shtick of Ultima Brad and these fictional characters is getting absurd, fake, and contradicting the jolly vibes of Love & Respect for me. I know that a lot of the EZA community loves these characters. I love them too, I am just concerned that this kind of stuff will get old in the long term. In my opinion, it's better to see the same people in bets as the people who are reacting to these conferences. I apologize if my opinions are controversial or too negative, I am just becoming critical of this betting special. But thank you for bringing the real Huber and Bosman back to the EZA bets. If these characters continue in future betting specials, I hope that Huber and Bosman continue to host. They do a great job. I apologize for my negativity in this comment. Love & Respect



  • @jifw52 Your first two points are pretty similar and purely a personal thing which is fair.

    Your third point is a bit much though. You mention you were trying your best to avoid spoilers but you went on a social network platform. There is no such thing as an appropriate time to reply to a tweet. You just have to be wary of that kind of thing in general. It also has nothing to do with the betting special itself.



  • @jifw52 The Betting Special is supposed to be fun and silly, I mean how can you predict stuff like this? The video game conferences are purely unpredictable (besides the normal rule of double jumps). I don't see a valid point in criticizing someones bets when this things are basically random.
    Also the characters are basically new, they haven't even been a year old and almost got destroyed in this betting special if ColdBlooded had won, so I don't believe its fair and valid to be SOO worried that they will be kept for longer than what people enjoy them (which people enjoy them very much, I laughed out loud multiple times XD)
    There is a clear inspiration on wrestling since there IS a literal wrestling belt involved. I dont watch or enjoy wrestling but their inspiration for this in my opinion works really well. We expect to see new characters rise and try to take down the OPPRESIVE RULE OF ULTIMABRAD's NEW ERA!!!