Bethesda E3 2017 Discussion



  • Too much talking, too much focus on games that already got released this year or last year, only two actual games (Cause I don't count VR, sorry, that's not a default gamer market), and I'm not sure if the dishonored thing was it's own game or just DLC, they didn't really say did they? EDIT- I see they have since put it on amazon to preorder as it's own release on disc, so ok 3 games, maybe 2 1/2.

    But Wolfenstein is the only game I would've paid any attention to, was hoping for something doom related...ended up being for VR so meh.

    Sad, but EA actually had more to show. Even though they let microsoft reveal possibly their biggest game.



  • The Evil Within 2 redeemed what was otherwise a pointless press conference for me.


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    "It's not paid mods. We're simply.....outsourcing.....our DLC."

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  • @Art After reading that, I am still confused whether or not the creation club stuff needs to be paid for.


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    @Inustar

    You're not paying for mods.
    You're paying for credits that you use to pay for mods.

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  • @Art well I think more correctly they are trying to differentiate between mods, which are the free fan made things and the Creation Club which is what you're talking about, higher quality things made by developers and such which will cost money.


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    @Inustar said in Bethesda E3 2017 Discussion:

    @Art higher quality things made by developers and such which will cost money.

    DLC/Microtransactions



  • You can oversimplify everything and scream 'DLC' and 'PAID MODS!!' all you will. However, it looks like the Content Club is mutually exclusive from the current modding system. Not only can old mods like Frostfall not be released through it, but the Club isn't affecting free mods in any way.



  • @Art said in Bethesda E3 2017 Discussion:

    DLC/Microtransactions

    Yeah, exactly, for the Creation Club stuff, mod stuff is still free.
    It's too bad that bet about microtransactions wasn't picked in the betting special. Would have been easy points.


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    Im kinda happy now, reading the comments, that I didn't get up at 5 this morning to watch this!



  • I wanna mention the Skyrim Switch edition because it was, in my opinion, the funniest part of the conference.

    For starters, motion control. I feel bad for whoever had to take the time to implement that. I can't imagine it being anything other than clunky, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's only there to add another bullet point to the reasons why you should totally buy this edition of a six year old game.

    There's also the Link amiibo implementation that turns the game into weird BotW DLC featuring Skyrim. It was the crème de la crème of unnecessary on an already unnecessary game.

    The music, though, was the first thing to make me laugh. Now, I really like Passion Pit and think Take a Walk is a great song, but I'm confident that someone saw the title, didn't listen to it, but said, "hey, let's use this cuz 'mobile,' hehe!" It was a very unexpected song and really did not go with the rest of the conference or even its own ad.

    So I thank you, Bethesda, for bringing some levity, no matter how unintentional it may have been.



  • Switch screen taped to the inside of a bucket + put bucket on head + dual Joy-Con motion controls + HD rumble = Skyrim VR in our time.

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  • Also, anyone who is skilled enough can release content through the Creation Club program, and get money for making that content. So skilled modders who make content through this, can actually get a some money out of making that content, unlike traditional mods. Though one needs to first apply into the program, and even then, all content that is released through this is moderated, tested and possibly even fixed and localized by Bethesda. So I don't see this as a bad thing. New, higher quality content, that actually supports those who made them? That is actually curated, and made sure works fine? Though the whole Credits thing is unnecessary, unless one can earn said credits through gameplay or achievements or whatever, or other ways that does not involve you paying money.



  • I was looking forward to it most. since last 2 years bethesda has been owning E3. but this year they didnot show a worthy game.

    Wolfenstein 2 looks terrible and same as new order.



  • @Black-Cell Why doesn't it look good to you? The New Order was fantastic. Along with Doom, Beth is really heralding the hardcore FPS revival.



  • @El-Shmiablo said in Bethesda E3 2017 Discussion:

    @Black-Cell Why doesn't it look good to you? The New Order was fantastic. Along with Doom, Beth is really heralding the hardcore FPS revival.

    it looks same as new order which was imo a terrible game where cutscenes always interupt gameplay and was no where near as good as RTCW.

    Doom is freakin masterpiece and new order is not even close to it.

    Metro exodus Own the entire E3 imo.



  • Now that I've had a night to sleep on it, I'm still shocked Bethesda had the show it did. Having a stage was kind of pointless and most of my predictions came true, but it feels hollow because there was so little to the show. This should have been just a video released online.

    The VR segment was interesting, and I'm all about DOOM, but I'm concerned it may be too fast for VR. I hope it works well. As for Fallout 4, I see it as the second full "game" with Resident Evil: VII being the first. I'm curious to see how it does.

    The Elder Scrolls Online, The Elder Scrolls Legends, and the Creations Club all were flops for me.

    Skyrim on Switch would've been a bigger deal if it wasn't teased during the Switch reveal all the way back in October. And still no date...

    Dishonored: Death of the Outsider was actually pretty cool. It's also a standalone $30 product, so an Uncharted: Lost Legacy situation?.... I don't care. Gimmie.

    Quake Champions ESports trailer was another total miss especially with what felt like a tacked on B.J. Blazkowciz cameo.

    Evil Within 2: Not for me. But WHAT A TRAILER.

    Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus had a real lengthy spot at the end, and I'm excited to get it in only a few months! But it wasn't enough in the grand scope of things.

    Overall, this felt like a 6/10, 3/5 show. And I can't believe I'm about to type this sentence:

    I feel EA, however vvvveeeeerrrrryyyyyy slightly, did better.



  • I appreciate that they didn't drag things along just to fill time, and they seem to only be showing stuff coming out soon, so that is also appreciated. I'm excited about New Colossus but other than that I would like to see something new from them.



  • @Brannox I basically agree with this except lower the score two points cause of the terrible black and white e-sports Quake segment that dragged on.

    I'll actually put Bethesda over EA, but only because The Evil Within 2 trailer was crazier than Death Stranding and the most intense trailer of E3 so far.



  • I guess years of watching Nintendo Directs made me more a lot more receptive to this conference than others, I think it was great, it could have used maybe a more "demo" like presentation for the new games on stage, but overall I think they did a good job of presenting their products, and actually having everything with a release date for this year is impressive to me.

    Paid mods is terrible though, and I feel like they purposefully made it confusing just so the reaction wasn't immediately negative, also they want to position it as more of an official DLC, but we all know it is still paid mods, and I feel like this time they'll get away with it because it is on consoles and I don't think there will be a lot of resistance to this in that community.