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@scotty You can play more PS2 games on PS5 then Xbox games on Series X.
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I didn't see PS2 games on the store for PS5, nice to know. Still, it would be really great to see all 4 generations, especially PS3 because that one is really missing.
And I want Sony to promote this more, like I just learned about PS2 thing because they really don't talk anything about this other than PS4 bc which was already given since the first announcements.
Great article about the matter. Jim Ryan doesn't give me trust the way I had with Sony prior to him.
@scotty that's a weird article. It's clear to me that MLB had a much bigger part in that deal, I don't know why they blamed Jim Ryan for that. It's MLB that pressured Sony to make it multiplatform in the first place, and considering they're doing it to make more money, they'll probably be very receptive with whatever amount of bucks MS throws in these deals. I understand not liking Jim, I don't either, but what a weird opinion piece to publish.
I don't think article directly about not liking Jim Ryan, my comment was not directly related to article; just came to my mind again after reading it.
About MLB having bigger part and pressuring Sony adressed both in the article and comments of the writer below. Article's main point is having the game on Gamepass day one while Sony's own fanbase have to pay full price is not making Sony look good and it's true. Sony should had do something about either Gamepass side or their own market whether it's holding game for some months before bringing it to Gamepass or giving the game also on their services or at least a discount etc. If Sony can't do any of these just because their agreement with MLB(which would be odd to not being able to do something in their own market) then that's not a good deal for their part because it makes them look like this.
@scotty Sure. I don't know how much Sony cares about this whole Game Pass thing, but I feel like they'll have some sort of reaction soon. Probably some PS+ related discount, if any.
One comment below the article says:
No matter what your stance on this is I will repeat myself and say that the more bad press Sony gets the better it will be for all of us because it will force them to do more pro consumer things
Great thinking. 😃
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@scotty I think that GamePass is sustainable for Microsoft because they generally don't release nearly as many high profile games as Sony does. A lot of their offerings on GamePass are filler like Sea of Thieves, Grounded, or that terrible hero shooter Ninja Theory made, Cutting Edge.
But for a company like Sony, that basically only releases gigantic AAA tentpole franchises, releasing them to play day 1 on a subscription service isn't nearly as lucrative for them, especially considering that their 1st party releases regularly break sales records.
Not to mention I think Microsoft has a lot more to gain in regards to consumer mindshare by doing this. Halo is a shadow of its former self, modern Gears is mediocre at best, and the only real exclusive titles they have that can be unanimously considered great is Forza Horizon.
Personally I don't subscribe to any of these rental services because I already have a titanic library of games, and I prefer owning my games to not, even if it means paying more in the end. I can totally understand it if you're new to gaming and want a huge library of games available to you out if the gate, but I'm personally not interested in any of it.
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My buddy is the same way as you and definitely wants to own all of his games, but what's been amazing about Game Pass and subscription services is that it's brought my hometown friends together like never before. We play Battlefield V and Halo 3 almost daily now and we didn't have to "buy" anything. It's definitely opened windows for sure.
For me, I don't mind Sony's model of full price video games. Xbox Game Pass can only do what they do because they have Micro$oft money, but I do think PlayStation should have a response when their exclusive game is "free" on one system and costs $89.99 + tax on their own.
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@dipset To be honest, I don't think Sony really care, because they are still making money either way. People who have invested in the Sony ecosystem to play the game aren't suddenly going to turn around and buy an entirely new console just for one game, but people on Xbox who have been waiting for literally anything baseball since MLB was exclusive to Sony for so long, now get to enjoy the game for free, and Sony is still pulling in the fat stacks.
I understand that this is great for the consumer, but Sony still control the power narrative in the industry. They announce a new game and people lose their minds. Microsoft announce a new Halo and most people just hope it won't suck as much as the last one did.
I expect they'll have a response at some point, but I don't think this is what will force their hand. They need to actually lose ground first, which they haven't done.
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yeah game pass on xbox is pretty cool. so much good stuff to play and lots of stuff i've never played before too. whenever i'm not playing stuff on my switch i'm usually playing stuff on xbox gamepass with my friends tbh
Sony still control the power narrative in the industry. They announce a new game and people lose their minds.
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@yoshi Thanks you for that insightful post that really added to the discussion.
"What if I told you there’s an ancient PlayStation game that mixes the persistent open world of Shenmue with the surrealism of Deadly Premonition?"
I don't know about you, but that description got me REALLY wanting to try this game out.
Kotaku: After 22 Years, Cult-Classic PS1 Adventure Mizzurna Falls Is Playable In English.
P.S. I already got it working on my Vita through hacks. Apparently it takes like 50 hours so this might take me a while to get through, if I like it enough...
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@bam541 I love stuff like this. There are several dozen Japanese only weird adventure games stuck on the PlayStation & Saturn lost to time.
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@paulmci27 Yeah, I'm super thankful for people that care enough to preserve them like the translators here. Makes the recent Sony debacle a bit more stingy tbh.
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@paulmci27 agreed. i would kill for a rerelease of Tomba and Tomba 2
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I think you’re totally right but there are so many types of gamers out there and I’m one that has a few options so in this specific instance, I’ll take the ‘free’ one. Idk if there are millions of people like me where Sony starts to make changes or if they are content with their current gameplan long term.
I kinda agree with your exclusives argument too. There is A LOT of really good stuff on Game Pass these days, and with the EA library included, that’s a bonus. But nothing on there holds a candle to the PS exclusives that I’ll buy full price in a heartbeat.
That said though, more stuff like PS+ Collection would be nice. It’s perfect for new gamers or people who missed a gen. My friend just got into PC gaming and he’s caught up on so much stuff between Game Pass and free Epic Games Store games.
Not a rerelease but you can get Tomba on the PS3 store for like $5. At least until June when they close the store.
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@dipset yeah don't have a ps3. They should just put ps1 games like that on the PS5 store
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Get ready for PS5 price raise, guys and girls! Sony sneakily added $40 to the price tag for both versions of PS5 in Russia. The currency conversion course hasn't changed since Sep 2020, so it's not like they are adjusting local price to match global price. They just raised global price.
To make things worse, Sony also cancelled previously placed pre-orders in their official store (including those that were made even before PS5 launch) because they "can't fulfill them". So those, who were waiting for months to get their console will not just have to pay more, they will have to return to the start of the waiting line.
That's terrible and can cost a lot to Sony, just like the first years of PS3.