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  • I learned that "Developed by Treyarch" is code for "This game will be complete dogshit" a loong time ago.



  • @dipset this kinda reminds me of the CoD 4 - World at War situation way back then. Infinity Ward leading the charge with a fresh take on the franchise, then Treyarch having to deal with being the "step-backwards" game because they didn't fully take advantage of IW's tech yet. I guess with having multiple studios, things like this will happen every once in a while.



  • @bam541 Nah. Fuck that shit. It's been like 20 years of this shit. They can't keep blaming it on "being behind in technology". They're just trash.





  • @el-shmiablo nah cod 3 was great. World at war introduced zombies on top of a great cod game. Blops 1,2 were amazing



  • For any playstation fans there's a very spicy interview with John Garvin Days Gone Writer on David Jaffes YouTube channel very interesting & revealing.



  • @bam541 @El-Shmiablo

    It's a mix of both. Black Ops CW engine must be different than IW's tech cause it literally feels like dogshit compared to Modern Warfare. It actually feel like dog shit compared to Black Ops 4 from 2018 so I don't even know how that happens.

    I've liked a few non-COD Treyarch games over the years but it seems like their main skillset is delivering a COD game in under 14 months like Activision keeps asking them to do when they cancel a game mid-cycle.

    @Bigdude1

    Call of Duty 3 is by far the worst COD I've played and was trying to copy Battlefield 2 unsuccessfully. I actually hated that game. Black Ops 1 was janky as all hell on PS3 and was a pretty bad follow up to MW2, and BO2 had appeal with it's speed and attachment system and is, in my opinion, the only great COD game by Treyarch. I didn't love it, but I'll accept it's praise.

    EDIT:
    I liked Call of Duty: Big Red One by Treyarch, but wouldn't call it great.



  • @bigdude1 I honestly found Black Ops 1 to be so bad that I was personally insulted by it.



  • @dipset said in That's News!:
    Black Ops 1 was a pretty bad follow up to MW2

    100%. Played MW2 a lot at friends' houses so was stoked to get my own copy when Black Ops came out. Was majorly disappointed.



  • -_-



  • I don't believe him



  • @el-shmiablo lol, I definitely understand where you're coming from with Treyarch, but I personally really like the Black Ops series a lot, at least the first three games. World at War is also one of my favorite CoD campaigns ever. They definitely feel a bit lacking in terms of gunplay feel and tech compared to the other games.

    On a not-too-related note, I've been wanting to play Infinite Warfare and the new MW just to sample how well IW is doing these days. Maybe I'll get a cheap used copy somewhere.



  • @bam541 If you want to sample how well Infinity Ward are doing, play Titanfall 2 or Apex Legends.
    Infinity Ward, much like Rare, Retro, Bioware and so many other "legacy" companies, are basically just the company in name alone, as the majority of the original talent has left.



  • @el-shmiablo ah, I forgot about Respawn. I already played those, Titanfall 2 is one of the best FPS I ever played. I hope they keep making shooters somehow, I know they're probably working on the next Fallen Order game which I also enjoyed.



  • @el-shmiablo

    A lot of the major staff who made COD2-COD MW2 left after MW2, went to Respawn then made classics at Respawn, then returned again to make COD MW 2019. I think NoClip covered some of the development of that game (could've been another company tbh), but a ton of the core IW staff returned to make Modern Warfare.

    @bam541

    I never understood the World at War love. That game was terrible. I don't understand how a series could step backwards so much from COD4 yet sell so many copies.

    Treyarch is like the douche bag in college who is banging the smart hot chick AND stealing her notes yet and somehow gets better grades than her despite stealing her essay verbatim.



  • @dipset I think that's a case of the sales being mostly driven by the quality of the previous game (CoD 4 in this case, obviously). I personally just like how violent and visceral the game is (spraying down enemies with a LMG and hacking of their limbs feels so good), and I'm personally always been more interested in the Pacific/Japanese side of WWII so it was quite a fun time for me. Funny analogy, btw.



  • https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-04-18-days-gone-writer-has-an-opinion-that-might-piss-off-some-gamers

    Honestly not to hate on the guy but how are people going to know they love a game before trying it. Like I get there being pedigree, getting caught in the hype, or the studio/team having a proven track record, but to essentially shit on people waiting for something to go on sale when they have nothing other then reviews to go on is kinda of a shit take.



  • @dmcmaster Wasn't Days Gone kinda broken at release? Not having a buggy game might help initial sales.



  • @dmcmaster

    Ahahaha! Hilarious guy. I will buy your game for the full price if I want to; making me want that is your job with good marketing, solid development process, intriguing story and world, demos or trials to experience some of it etc. Don't blame the gamers because of your average looking game and gameplay, technical problems, not-so-great reviews didn't make them want it for full price(still yet to play it but never had the need for to play it immediately since the first E3 demo).


    Amazon continues to burn money:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1383499208699703304

    This was their 4th or 5th attempt about an online game. I don't know, maybe they should try something more humble and focused like a singleplayer game for a change?



  • @scotty
    For the Amazon game, I believe Tencent swooped in and bought the developer, then Amazon and Tencent couldn't come to an agreement.

    They have actually released on single player game