Hall of Greats Compendium

  • @ThyBlight Yes it is the point. Just like any sport hall of fame, the ones that usually come in first are the most celebrated players, so they are getting the OBVIOUS greats out of the way first. Its hard to choose games before this ones. After the first year and a couple more HoG you will start to see more "less celebrated" ones.

    And between SMW and 64 its a hard one.. both are highly influential games. My opinion: SMW is a 2d platforms.. I noticed that I think i've never finished a 2D platformer (besides metroids) because i just get unconsciously bored of falling and jumping.. and falling SOOOO many times... While playing New super mario bros for wii u I concluded that I suck at 2D mario platformers but with 3D platformers you could spend hours without doing anything and just exploring.. I think that Mario 64 had a bigger reach in bringing all type of players compared to SMW that, because of being a 2D platformer, is limited to gamers that like that genre of games.. for similar reasons i think a game like 64 holds up more in today's game.

  • @edsortiz It's true. Maybe I'm just antsy and want to get into the weirder ones. When I watch WWE Hall of fames it's always really cool to see characters with the most Heart getting in than the obvious choices like Hogan or Ricky Steamboat. Maybe I just want more episodes faster, haha :P

    I should count my blessings though; at least it's not once a year.

    You gotta keep playing to get good; and judging any 2d platformer based on New Super Mario bros isn't a good metric since that game pales in comparison to SMW and SMB3.

    I absolutely disagree that 64 holds up better. In fact I'd go so far as to say that sprite-based games almost always hold up better than 3d rendered games – especially of the 64 bit era. I find 64 is barely playable due to such poor graphics, which was one of the biggest selling points for most 64 games at the time of release. The only thing 64 bit games tend to have, in my opinion, is nostalgia. Mario 64 had damn good level design, but it pales in comparison to how well crafted Super Mario World and Super Mario 3 were.

  • @ThyBlight You are right when comparing sprite graphics and 3d 64 era graphics.. super nintendo game do hold up better and also comparing the NSM Bros with Super mario world... But at the end .. we are comparing a Mona Lisa with a The Starry Night.. at least for me XD.. They are all GREATS! (except New Super Mario World Wii U... -.-

  • @edsortiz Yeah, that game isn't very good.

    I understand that different horses are for different coarses, but man was this wild stallion build for the that perfect sprint-and-jump mechanic you can achieve in Super Mario World. I always find 64 to be slow an clunky comparatively. Also, again, SMW is prettier and less empty feeling.

  • @edsortiz Oh, and thank you SO MUCH for the upvotes. I'm so tired of the ten minute timer that I keep stumbling onto!!!

    Welp! There it goes.... I'll have to wait 600 seconds to post this until I have more Karma or whatever this forum calls it... -_-

  • No problem :) i didnt know about that O.O

  • @ThyBlight Some weird ones are being nominated at least (usually by Don) but yeah, we just gotta wait a bit until the big boys are in their rightful place. Have some upvotes, by the way.

    @edsortiz yeah, the upvote timer got enacted because we were getting flooded by spam on a massive level every day. It's been gone for awhile thankfully.

  • On the subject of certain games getting in, you also need to take the Allies themselves into account. Their preferences will get in before anything else. MGS, Ocarina of Time, SM64, and Castlevania are clear indicators as each I think are one of the Allies' favorite games of all time. I know Mr. Bosman has MGS #1 and I know Mr. Jones has stated on the record that OoT is the greatest game ever made. Mr. Damiani, I need to be double-checked on this one, said either OoT or SM64 was his favorite game of all time. I don't think SotN is Mr. Hinck's favorite game of all time with Bloodborne and Dark Souls out there, but I know from all of the content I've seen with Mr. Hinck discussing games, I think he talks about Bloodborne ONLY more than SotN.

    As for Super Metroid and Super Street Fighter, of course the Allies think they're phenomenal, but I don't know if either is any of the Allies' absolute favorite.

    Also, look at the time frame: 98, 94, 96, 94, 98, 97. This is also a clear indicator that time period is also going to be a common denominator for games getting in. With that being said, over the course of the next 6 or 7 Hall of Greats streams, you should expect some of the following getting in:

    GTA IV
    GTA V
    Metroid Prime
    Halo 2
    Halo 3
    Resident Evil 4
    Mass Effect 2
    The Legend of Zelda
    The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Super Mario Bros.
    Super Mario Galaxy
    Red Dead Redemption
    Final Fantasy VI
    Final Fantasy VII
    Final Fantasy IX
    Final Fantasy Tactics
    Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

  • @edsortiz You've just about pushed me over the edge on your lonesome! Sweet, hahaha! 1 Karma left!

    Yeah, apparently you can only post once every 10 minutes until you have 5 Karma.

  • @Brannox
    I cannot wait to hear Bosman denounce Bioshock despite how much I friggin' love that game. I just love hearing him diss games that I like.

    I'm actually surprised that Jones hasn't brought in Red Dead yet.

  • @SabotageTheTruth
    Man I love Don's picks. I actually want that Jurassic Park Game now. Though with the new one coming I think I'll just wait it out for that. Still, though, he brings such unique choices in!

  • Brannox's list made me remember the disturbing fact that Resident Evil 4 didn't make it into the Top 100 games list at all here, when we voted for them. Damn, you're all weird!

  • I still love that ACIV: Black Flag was Don's very first nomination.

  • @Sentinel-Beach I don't think RE4 will get in before RE2, so we shall all likely continue to be weird 😊

  • @Inustar I don't know. All of them love RE4, even Kyle, whereas I think the only one passionate enough to champion RE2 would be Huber. RE4 is just one of those eventual "No duh"s, lol.

  • @Minamik I look forward to seeing which RE gets in first, and how long it takes.

  • Silent Hill 2 is making it in before any Resident Evil game.

    Bold prediction. In bold.

  • @SabotageTheTruth Well, not like anyone is going to go to bat for Fatal Frame. :(

  • @SabotageTheTruth every Zelda, Mario and MGS game will make it in before Silent Hill.

    Even bolder prediction... so bold it had to be struck out.

    Though realistically I think at least one of each will probably get another in before Silent Hill.

  • Great list, great show, great patreon. Thanks for putting this up.