Hall of Greats Compendium



  • Also, HBomberguy released a great video this weekend about Fallout: New Vegas. It does a really good job of articulating why the game is so good. I'm mourning that it'll never get brought to Hall of Greats.

    Youtube Video



  • @hazz3r

    Yeah I hear what you're saying. Bethesda-style open world RPGs are kinda like their own genre for that matter and I feel like any great RPG recommendation should include one of either Morrowwind, Oblivion, or Skyrim (in which I'd elect Oblivion). I guess in the context of HoG, it might look like any RPG nominee should be up to The Witcher III's standard.

    This here is a really good way of putting it though:

    One is "explore and interact with the world that you find". The other is: "here are stories, play through these stories as you see fit".

    I feel like The Witcher series in general is just unravelling plots and your decisions affect those plots whereas TES is like "You just stumbled across our shady back alley thief cult that meets in the rain at 2am. Congrats! You are a thief now."



  • @hazz3r

    Yeah, I don't think Skyrim is a bad game. I do think that for it to be inducted though, the memes and irony that it's picked up over the past decade are going to have to be put aside, and that's going to be a difficult task. I especially think about that with Jones starting his induction speech by saying he was 'bringing it unironically'.

    It really is very different to The Witcher 3 too like you were saying, with Skyrim having that emphasis on the exploration side. I think personally that's why I prefer one over the other, but it also may be a point of why it's a difficult sell; I can't go back to Skyrim. Like Breath of the Wild, with that core philosophy of 'explore and go where you want' I've found going back to either game a difficulty, but still retain positive memories of playing both. Those memories are going to just vary drastically because of the open ended nature of the game.

    While I admire in the presentations people talking about the zeitgeist of coming into the office to hear about what everyone did the night before, I don't know that that's enough. However, I don't know how to present the game in positive ways beyond trying to recount that freedom and open-endedness.



  • @hazz3r At least Skyrim has more character and intrigue than in many Ubisoft open-world games.



  • @jdincinerator said in Hall of Greats Compendium:

    @hazz3r At least Skyrim has more character and intrigue than all Ubisoft open-world games combined.

    Completely agree! 😄