Kill Your Babies: Dungeons



  • Ok, we've made a list of all out favorite dungeons, now it's time to narrow it down to a winner.

    As always the rules are:

    -You can kill one additional dungeon for every 4 other kills or after 12 hours has passed.

    -Keep a running list of the remaining dungeons with your kill crossed out.

    -Once the list has been narrowed down to 2 dungeons, a straw poll will be posted where you can vote for which you think should be the winner. The poll will last 24 hours.

    -Not required but a reason for your kill is preferable.

    Here's the list:

    Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Shinra HQ - Final Fantasy VII
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Sen's Fortress - Dark Souls
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Old Way - TES IV: Oblivion
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Defiled Chalice Dungeon - Bloodborne
    Silph Co. - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII



  • I'm in these lists too much...

    Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Shinra HQ - Final Fantasy VII
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Sen's Fortress - Dark Souls
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Old Way - TES IV: Oblivion
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Defiled Chalice Dungeon - Bloodborne
    Silph Co. - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    I'm going to carry over the reasoning from the last list here: Going by games I have no interest in.



  • Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Shinra HQ - Final Fantasy VII
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Old Way - TES IV: Oblivion
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Defiled Chalice Dungeon - Bloodborne
    Silph Co. - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    I really don't like the vibe I got from the description when it was added in the last thread. Games being cruel to the player for the sake of being cruel doesn't sit right with me, regardless of how many people willingly subject themselves to that cruelty.

    @michemagius I would have picked something from Okami if I had a few more selections (I already added a lot). I think it's just that that game has a stronger story, overworld, and quests when compared to most 3D Zeldas, while Zelda beats it out in terms of dungeons, combat/puzzle mechanics, and in a few cases really unique vibes. So that's why I listed three Zelda dungeons before any from Okami. But of course even off brand Zelda dungeons are better than most dungeons.



  • Whoa, whoa, whoa! Soulsborne locations are dropping waaaay too rapidly. I will not stand for this travesty!

    Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Shinra HQ - Final Fantasy VII
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Old Way - TES IV: Oblivion
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Silph Co. - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    This is pure spite, since many people here hold this game as something special. Seeing as how I've never played it, my conscious is clear.



  • Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Old Way - TES IV: Oblivion
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Silph Co. - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    hell no, may have been a good for its time, but no way in hell it holds up



  • Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Old Way - TES IV: Oblivion
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    @Brannox of all the ways you could have started this list. I am ashamed of you.

    Not really. I just think Souls games probably have some of the best dungeons in all reality.

    Nobody put Destiny Raids on here? Im shocked.

    I really enjoyed playing that game, but i dont recall any dungeon type gameplay being all that great. The game does other things better.



  • @CGamor7 Well then, looks like I'm doing something right! ;-)

    Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    Now that the Souls/Borne games have been eliminated next below my list of non interest: Persona



  • Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Goron Mines - Twilight Princess
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    Don't much like Twilight Princess. Snowpeak Ruins was one of the highlights though so I can't be removing that one.



  • Heaven - Persona 4
    Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    An arbitrary kill, I haven't played any Persona game. But I refuse to believe their dungeons can be better than Zelda dungeons, so they gotta go.

    One.
    By.
    One.



  • Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil
    Mt. Nibel - Final Fantasy VII

    I kinda wish to kill Pokemon, but looking at this list FFVII is the one game I have the least interest in, so yeah off you go, besides I have good memories of Saphire and it is by far my favorite gen, so I'll let it live for now



  • Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    The Darkest Dungeon - Darkest Dungeon
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil

    As I said before, I don't like games that are about being difficult, they can feel like watching a movie about filmmaking. I also don't think the Darkest Dungeon is anything special compared to all of these AAA RPGs and Zelda games, it's just another randomly-generated indie game level. You can't even really explore IIRC, your characters just automatically walk from right to left on a 2D plane with nothing to really tie that to the multidirectional minimap. I really think there is zero interesting about this as a dungeon, as a location, as the surrender of level design that random generation is.



  • Kamoshida's Castle - Persona 5
    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil

    I continue with my lack of interest reasoning in Persona. I'm choosing Kamoshida's Castle over Sae's Casino because of it being the first on the list.



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  • @Haru17 You know, except that the Darkest Dungeon has a specifically crafted layout and design and is not randomly generated with established fights, traps, secret rooms, boss encounters, etc. It is a culmination of your journey thus far, a goal that is always in sight, testing your mettle and the strategies you have developed.

    There's a reason that Souls and games like it are popular, and it is not only about difficulty. That may be what intrigues people originally, but ultimately it is about challenge and reward, risk and martial prowess, exploration into a hostile but fascinating world. And with that, all my entries are dead here.



  • Another 12 hours have elapsed. That means another Persona must go. Now, I have a new target...

    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Sae's Casino - Persona 5
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    The Omega Ruins - Final Fantasy X
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil



  • I must resume my crusade against other JRPGs it seems, let's start with other FF games given my generl dislike for Square and the series

    edit: guess it will have to wait



  • @bard91 Hey, just wanted to let you know you need to wait for one more kill before yours becomes official.



  • I wish to remove Omega Ruins please. It's a terribly boring, copy-pasta dungeon with no point other than to boost your party. Its such an odd addition.



  • If only Wallbridge from Tales of Graces were on this list...screw that awful dungeon!



  • @Billy Hmm. Sorry about all your entries, but from what I can tell the game is procedurally generated. And you know I don't respect games for purely having difficult / unbalanced gameplay, so that's why I killed it. It's also the fact that it's a difficult turn-based game and that genre makes skillfully avoiding damage basically impossible, so it's not a genre I would be interested in being even a little more difficult in the first place.

    Durlag's Tower - Baldur's Gate
    Deep Dungeon - Final Fantasy Tactics
    Victory Road - Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire
    Infinite Dungeon - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    Dragon Roost Cavern - The Wind Waker
    Snowpeak Ruins - Twilight Princess
    Mana Fortress - Secret of Mana
    Stone Tower Temple - Majora's Mask
    Great Bay Temple - Majora's Mask
    Pharos of Ridorana - Final Fantasy XII
    Blackreach - Skyrim
    The Temple of Elemental Evil - The Temple of Elemental Evil

    In addition to @Sheria killing FFX's Omega Ruins, I guess I'll kill the Infinite Dungeon. I've honestly never heard of Ancient Domains of Mystery, but google image results make the level design look pretty boring and grid-based. And again, I don't think random generation will ever compare to handcrafted level design.