Anyone here from NeoGaf?

  • @DemonSwordsman I doubt it, especially because of the article. If anything I'd imagine they would be less likely to come back now after reading that.

  • Welp, NeoGAF is back. I won't be though. I am glad I will be able to still find the old threads filled with information though.

  • Message from Evilore:

    An allegation of sexual misconduct has been made against me by an ex. It's not true, the individual making the accusation isn't credible, the story doesn't reconcile logically with the facts, and there's plenty of evidence and witnesses to corroborate that. It'll be a process.

    All allegations of this nature are serious, of course. I first got word of it on Wednesday when a screenshot of a Facebook post was handed to Voat. I immediately talked with my mod team about the contents of the screenshot and clarified that it was baseless and explained some of the details concerning my former associations with her, and tried to ensure any concerns from the team were addressed fully and transparently to everyone's satisfaction. On Thursday I heard that she had deleted the accusation from Facebook, and wasn't entirely sure how to proceed from there or how this would all play out in the public space at that point. Then, Friday morning, the screenshot made its way to NeoGAF and chaos ensued.

    I was in the process of writing a statement that entire day to address formally address the allegation, but the community had erupted in a flash that morning. While the moderation team was trying to restore the peace, accusations and threats concerning the screenshot started shifting to them as well by association with me, and I was asked by my team to do something to fix things and get the heat off of all of them at least. I was beyond exhausted by that point, though, stretched too thin in the time since the post had first appeared and seeing unprecedented events unfold on NeoGAF. I was slow and weak. I failed to handle it quickly enough and let the team down. Before I could finish a statement and get it out there, understandably some mods hit their emotional limit, expressed concerns about the community coming after them, and decided to leave. A few people resigned, and many more quickly followed for similar reasons, citing stress and harassment. The site started breaking under load spikes leading up to the first resignations, too, and then flatlined altogether, so issuing a statement at that time on NeoGAF itself became impossible for the time being, and my attention shifted toward the moderation team's future.

    Since that whole mess, lasting from Friday morning through Saturday, before we formally went offline for maintenance and repair and restructure, we've just been trying to figure out the best course of action for NeoGAF going forward. And as stories began being published by various outlets, I issued some comments to the press, since everything coming out was proving to be sensationalized, opportunist, and unprofessional.

    We've all become increasingly stressed and weary this year in ways even I'm not accustomed to by now, and discussions on heated news, political issues, and social issues on the off-topic side of the site have become areas no one has wanted to moderate in the open for fear of backlash or just general exposure to the inevitable toxicity. I've gone in there myself to take the heat, since it's very much my responsibility to do so before anyone else's, but there's been little headway, mostly just more anger and resentment and a lot of bans. I don't think this necessarily reflects on our community; more so the tone of the entire internet this year with regards to heated issues.

    That's all going to inform the way forward for NeoGAF as we refocus on what the main goals are supposed to be for the site. The mod team will talk about more specifics on what that will entail below.

    One last thing. The NeoGAF mod team is here for this community; all of you. You have no obligations to respect me or believe anything I say about my personal life one way or another, but if you're going to be here and participate on NeoGAF, respect the mod team by following the rules and behaving. The team is diminished at the moment and the folks who stuck around care very much about this community and its future. Be considerate of them. That's non-negotiable.

    Thanks. "

    Message from mods:
    "The future of NeoGAF will be a return to what many of us have come here for, a place where we can gather together and enjoy our shared hobby of video games. For a short time, Off-Topic Discussion and Off-Topic Community will be closed so that we can rediscover that. We'll be starting with a clean slate when they come back. However, the focus will be on the many other hobbies we may have like TV, movies, anime, writing, music, etc. Political and social discourse will not be allowed in the new Off-Topic. Those types of discussions greatly added to the harsh and unwelcoming atmosphere of Off-Topic, which pushed many users away.

    Moderation will also see changes. Over the years, moderators changed from simply people who made sure discussion stay civil into personalities. It's because of that, many were targeted for harassment and other things. This shouldn't be happening to them. We've taken action to protect these people by making moderation anonymous. There will be no more red-names that single them out nor will there be a list of who is one. "


    1. For the time being, Off-Topic will be locked.
    2. When it does come back, Politics/social discourse will be NOT ALLOWED. So no more talking about Trump, stuff like that.
    3. ALL mods will be invisible. No more red names. No more knowing who is a mod and who isn't.

    Honestly, for me, these seem like good changes. Never interested in politics on Neogaf regardless.

  • Honestly the new lack of transparency for the modding team makes me wonder if there are no mods anymore.

  • Looks like there will be more bannings with the new topics popping up

  • As expected the forum is bedlam. I don't really know what they expected and I don't see how it will ever stop.

    EDIT: Also holy shit the responses in the thread where EvilLore posted that are SAVAGE! This is so surreal.

  • Yeah, some real account suicides going on. People with like 30k posts.

  • They're just acting in a way their teacher taught them to.

  • @Mikey-Jr. Yeah kinda stupid tbh. Oh well glad it's back. EzaGaf is a good place while Gaming forum gets sorted out.

    Hopefully things die down in a day or two. Kinda worried about the invisible mods since it can lead to abuse but last ones were getting personal attacks.

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    Looks about right

  • @Carmichael
    I'm sure there are, although not as many as there used to be. Anyone being a mod right now would have to defend why they are still supporting the website, were they completely transparent about the mods. No one wants to deal with that crap, especially now that the forums are likely going to pretty chaotic for a while.

  • An kind of update on the new resetERA?
    I also just noticed that I don't have access to a "valid" email address anymore. :(

  • His statement is deeply troubling. The fact that he starts of by trying to discredit her accusation is a problem. An accusation that originally didn't mention him by name...that doesn't benefit her in any way and makes her the target of further harassment. He makes vague claims about evidence and witnesses. He has a history of troubling behavior that he does not deny. He makes it sound like struggle to just say what happened, taking the better part of a week to make a statement about it.

    I don't know, maybe my perception is colored by my own personal experiences, but his statement is effectively void of substance, and I'll be happy to never hear from or about him again. I think I'm done with this thread. I'm just going to enjoy this community and put GAF out of my mind for the foreseeable future.

  • I just asked them to end my account just so I wouldn't change my mind. I've been there since 2005 and loved being there most of the time. But I can't support the site after this incident, it's really not that important.

  • @ISee said in Anyone here from NeoGaf?:

    An kind of update on the new resetERA?
    I also just noticed that I don't have access to a "valid" email address anymore. :(

    Likely to launch within 24 hours, admin team mostly sorted. That's about it right now

  • @Japanmanx3 yeah i was hella suprised when i sae one of the edited posts where by none other than m0dus. Disgusting and i quickly deleted those themes made from my playstation. I too would be to embarrassed to say im a mod.

    But anyway the place is gone. It will stay. The old timers will die down and be banned. New people will come but the charm and general aura of the place will be dead. Gone will be devs, who knows if any of the allies will post, among other journalists. John from Digital Foundry i have been told is moving on. It will be a shell of its former self.

  • Damn gaf is crazy right now, so many accounts suicides, all the communities will suffer because of this shitstorm unfortunately. It's gonna take a while for things to get back to normal(if ever).

  • Well, I checked in on the site, and most of the key oldtimers are MIA, plus every thread is attacking Evilore. I just can't see a path to anything resembling it's old form, so I'm done with it. Barring epic news that they get an exclusive on, this is officially the last NeoGAF thread I ever read.


    In hopeful news though, this forum seems to have a somewhat similar vibe to NeoGAF in terms of OTs/news reporting. Will be keeping an eye on it.

  • Invisible mods is an awful idea honestly, you need to be able to hold regulation accountable. The rest of the changes seem valid in an attempt to restore GAF, but I think the lion's share of people have flown the coop for good

  • Hi folks, Acquiescence here from NeoGAF. I flew pretty under the radar to be honest, but a couple of gaffers will probably recognise me from the avatar.

    What's funny is that three weeks ago I was banned from the site. My ban is due to lift tomorrow and if I return then it'll be to a scene of total pandemonium. It's amazing how much can change in such a short span of time! I was banned by Roboleon for "console wars" in a thread where the topic literally revolved around console line-ups and competing systems, and many people in the thread were making comparisons between the three main platforms, so I don't know why I was singled out. For the first time in my over six years of being a member, I was going to pm one of the veteran mods to contest such an arbitrary and selective ban that I felt was done so by clear bias. Now, there aren't any veteran mods left - if there are then we don't know who has remained - and Roboleon isn't even a mod anymore (every cloud has a silver lining I guess). Like I said, it's crazy how things can change so suddenly.

    Anyway, I've been something of a fan of Easy Allies since the GT days. I feel like this is belated and I should've joined the community yonks ago. Don't know why it took this long.