Anyone here from NeoGaf?



  • Hi folks, Acquiescence here from NeoGAF. I flew pretty under the radar to be honest, but a couple of gaffers will probably recognise me from the avatar.

    What's funny is that three weeks ago I was banned from the site. My ban is due to lift tomorrow and if I return then it'll be to a scene of total pandemonium. It's amazing how much can change in such a short span of time! I was banned by Roboleon for "console wars" in a thread where the topic literally revolved around console line-ups and competing systems, and many people in the thread were making comparisons between the three main platforms, so I don't know why I was singled out. For the first time in my over six years of being a member, I was going to pm one of the veteran mods to contest such an arbitrary and selective ban that I felt was done so by clear bias. Now, there aren't any veteran mods left - if there are then we don't know who has remained - and Roboleon isn't even a mod anymore (every cloud has a silver lining I guess). Like I said, it's crazy how things can change so suddenly.

    Anyway, I've been something of a fan of Easy Allies since the GT days. I feel like this is belated and I should've joined the community yonks ago. Don't know why it took this long.



  • @Acquiescence Hey Acquiescence! You always were a friendly face around GAF for me. Stunned to hear you were banned for such a petty reason, you never seemed the type!



  • @Acquiescence Yeah the bans has been strange for a long time, some obviously deserved it but what you describe doesn't seem like a valid reason.

    Now that my account is ended I can speak freely.

    I got my first ban when openly doubting the Kinect success after my first play test. I wasn't rude or anything, I simply thought the reports after the launch would be about how it didn't work properly (which it didn't for me) rather than how awesome it was.
    Ban!
    Apparently that was a too unpopular opinion at the time.

    My second ban was the strangest one, by Evilore himself ironically. I made a thread where I asked if I should buy the PS3 or 360 version of Skyrim. Pretty soon the thread were filled with PC talk and I eventually asked people to talk about PC elsewhere since I didn't have a PC at that time. Evilore stept into the discussion and thought it was okay for the thread I had made to go off-topic...
    But that didn't help me one bit so I edited the OP and asked PC people to take the PC talk in a PC thread instead.
    Ban!
    "You don't make the rules of a thread just because you started it."

    First board I've ever been to where the thread creator can't decide what the talk in the thread should be about.

    As usual every ban ends with other users on the mods side mocking the banned members and applauding the harsh mod style. Disgusting attitude.



  • Hey, @Acquiescence ! You're the first GAF refugee that I recognize! :)



  • @jaggafredde said in Anyone here from NeoGaf?:

    @Acquiescence Yeah the bans has been strange for a long time, some obviously deserved it but what you describe doesn't seem like a valid reason.

    Now that my account is ended I can speak freely.

    I got my first ban when openly doubting the Kinect success after my first play test. I wasn't rude or anything, I simply thought the reports after the launch would be about how it didn't work properly (which it didn't for me) rather than how awesome it was.
    Ban!
    Apparently that was a too unpopular opinion at the time.

    My second ban was the strangest one, by Evilore himself ironically. I made a thread where I asked if I should buy the PS3 or 360 version of Skyrim. Pretty soon the thread were filled with PC talk and I eventually asked people to talk about PC elsewhere since I didn't have a PC at that time. Evilore stept into the discussion and thought it was okay for the thread I had made to go off-topic...
    But that didn't help me one bit so I edited the OP and asked PC people to take the PC talk in a PC thread instead.
    Ban!
    "You don't make the rules of a thread just because you started it."

    First board I've ever been to where the thread creator can't decide what the talk in the thread should be about.

    As usual every ban ends with other users on the mods side mocking the banned members and applauding the harsh mod style. Disgusting attitude.

    There was a large amount of pressure in starting any thread to ensure it was watertight and you weren't going to be held responsible if the topic deviated, it certainly stifled me from starting many many topics.

    I once did a thread about how amiibo could be updated to have on-board memory for increased capability, and got about 50 responses of "ugh I hate amiibo", with about 3 or 4 people actually responding to the topic at hand.



  • @Tregard Yeah you certainly had to think very clearly how things could be misinterpreted and blow up in your face.
    It's odd though, some people seemed to get away just fine with the hate/trolling you describe while others could get banned for much less. There were often much more trolling allowed against Nintendo than Sony too, same thing with Microsoft.



  • I won't miss the dogpiling for sure, liking the EZA forums quite a bit so far!



  • @DemonSwordsman I had something like 15-20k posts and asked for an account nuke. Not worth being associated with the forum anymore.



  • @Acquiescence said in Anyone here from NeoGaf?:

    I was banned by Roboleon for "console wars" in a thread where the topic literally revolved around console line-ups and competing systems, and many people in the thread were making comparisons between the three main platforms, so I don't know why I was singled out

    I got banned as a Jr (so, permabanned) for something like 3 years ago on my first account. So at least you weren't the first one.



  • GAF is dead. The people sticking around don’t seem to be a nice bunch. I only really used it for the NFL thread anyways. We got ourselves a nice little discord now. For gaming discussion I think I’ll keep it here.



  • @Tregard There likely isn't an invisible mod. Its probably just Evilore now. And he needed a cover story. Would make sense to nuke Off Topic if so. As he just has to monitor one section.

    There were a few bannable posts (in Evilore's eyes) on his statement thread that were missed. A potential sign that its really a one man show. And thus he can't keep his attention span to look out for the details. He'll probably find a few mods out of the holdouts, who are looking past his behavior. Still, the bans and sudden nuking of communities in off topic with limited registration. Will cripple poster numbers. Along with sexual assault history/allegations, that will kill ad revenue. So Gaf is either way, on a direct course to irrevelency.



  • @Acquiescence I got banned for two weeks this month due to...fighting racism. Within the same day, others were being banned for making racist rhetoric in the JonTron/Hat in Time Thread.



  • Seeing GAF become a cesspool of inconsideration for women, minorities, and even the mentally ill (in less then 24 hours) is one of the most depressing experiences in my life and I'm currently living that experience.

    6 years of my life, dedicating my time there...all I can do now is fight barbaric opinions and say my good-byes until the new message board is up.

    -_-



  • @Tregard Hi Tregard, thanks for the words. You were a chill, positive dude and I appreciated your presence on the site.

    Truth be told, I racked up quite a few bans in total. Averaged about one a year from 2011 onwards. Two, which I got early on, I clearly deserved, but the others were arbitrary and just petty as hell to ban anyone over. The latest one though, that had me irritated enough to want to dispute it rather angrily to one of the more reasonable mods (shame I won't ever get the chance now). You just know there's a point when the mods get their own personal agenda and just ban you simply because they want you gone for good. Just look at those Beseda private message pics floating around on the web to see what I'm saying.

    Sorry if I sound overly bitter. Do you plan on posting on NeoGAF still or are you avoiding it for good? The community is massively fractured now it seems.



  • @Oscillator Well that makes me feel weird haha. Maybe I wasn't as low-key as I thought.



  • @ChucklesBrown That's exactly why, even though NeoGAF is in almost ruins right now, I still feel compelled to post on there. Because the old moderation team has disintegrated and maybe the new one is more level-headed and not so eager to get rid of people for trivial reasons.

    I'll never forget being banned two weeks for taking the piss out of Matt Lees hair in one of his Youtube videos.



  • I've posted on GAF so infrequently that I've been a junior member since 2008 - I guess it will stay that way. After taking a glance at the stuff being posted there now, particularly some of the responses to the mental health thread, I can't see myself going back.



  • @Acquiescence Hey man, good to see you.

    Yeah, I agree, it's extremely fractured which is the real part to be missed in this sort of vacuum. All of the really helpful people both in games and off-topic, the gathering of people thanks to time was pretty special for covering all manner of games from global developers with so many international members, and deep dive posts on tons of games even decades after release from old posters (like someone had just discovered Snatcher for example and the thread was getting deep into the game again and its development), plus all of the off-topic stuff that each built up regularly returning communities.

    For a tiny example, like how the TV threads could go on indefinitely with people helping each other find the right set etc. for both games and movies, and setup and calibration problems. Normally you'd only get that on a TV or electronics forum but there were a ton of cross-media savvy people on the forum who could combine what you'd get on a TV/electronics enthusiast forum with a focus on PCs and console heavy usage. Likely due to timing with the forum growing with those people as they branched out into the working world.



  • @Primethius said in Anyone here from NeoGaf?:

    @DemonSwordsman I had something like 15-20k posts and asked for an account nuke. Not worth being associated with the forum anymore.

    Good to see you.


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    I've read a couple of the posts some of you made that were long time members. I myself was way too intimated to even browse through NeoGaf. I just heard a lot about it from various gaming news outlets. Mostly from Gametrailers towards the end when they closed. You hate to see something like that happen to such a huge aND influential community. All I have to say is if you plan to stick another here on the EZA forums or just wanted to stop by and try and reach other NeoGaf members. It's fine by me, wither you stay or not.

    Love and Respect


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