Overrated/Underrated JRPGs

  • Hey allies. As a lot of people who use this forum are JPPG fans. What are your most overrated/underrated JRPGs.

    Two that come mind are..

    Overrated. Tales of Symphionia. I think this one gets a lot of love due to it being one of the only JRPGs on the gamecube. Having played it a couple of years ago I was a bit disappointed. Characters story & battle system for me was one of the weaker entries since the series it became 3D.

    Underrated. Shadow Hearts. I only played this last year & fell in love with it. Beautiful pre rendered backgrounds & the dark yet goofy storyline also a great twist on the traditional turn based battle system.

  • Overrated: Ni No Kuni, biggest let down in my gaming life, one of my main reasons for buying a PS3 and it turned out to be fun for about 10 hours before it's horrible combat system started showing how bad it was and the story just became a drag and all the useless dialog that made the game drag.

    I'll think about an underrated one

  • Too many games. If any of the games leap out to you (as in why I think they're over/underrated or in general) then you can ask about them. But off the top of my head...

    Overrated: "Tales of..." series, Star Ocean series, Atelier series, Xenoblade series. FF10, FF9, FF15. Ni No Kuni probably also falls into the overrated side, even though it did a lot of things right.

    Underrated: Infinite Space, Radiant Historia, Radiata Stories, Shadow Hearts series (3 in particular), Suikoden series, Tactics Ogre: Let us cling together, Valkyria Chronicles, Brave Fencer Musashi, Skies of Arcadia, Ys series, Sakura Wars series, Alundra, Lunar series, Resonance of Fate, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. King Abaddon, Front Mission series.

  • I don't generally like to call games overrated. Usually if there's a lot of hype around a specific game it's because it's important to a lot of people, and even if I don't enjoy it as much as everyone else, it's still a good game.

    Games I Didn't Enjoy as Much as Others: Paper Mario and TTYD
    I own Paper Mario for the virtual console, and thought it was good. Just not great. I'm not really a fan of it's battle system for a lot of reasons, but overall it just didn't gel with me personally. As for TTYD I haven't played all the way through this game. I've only gotten to play a few hours every now and then at a friend's place, but I've watched the whole game on youtube. For that reason I have a hard time really calling it overrated since I don't think I've actually played enough to fully judge it. I like the environments, the partners, the writing, and the story. It's just that battle system that I really can't get behind.

    Games I Think Are Underrated: Persona 3 Portable and Persona 2 IS/EP:
    P2 and P3 are criminally underrated not only by JRPG fans but also by Persona fans who've only played P4 and P5. P1 is garbage, so I think it deserves it criticisms fully. But P2 and P3, are absolute treasures that deserve to be recognized more. Persona 2 is in the unfortunate situation that most people haven't played it, and therefore don't know how good it is. It also looks really old, which might scare off some people. While the visuals are pretty dated, the game itself is not. The battle system is fun and engaging, the music is pretty timeless, the art while looking really 90's still has a lot of charm, and the unique systems all really elevate the experience. Seriously, next to the day system and social links, P2's rumor and food systems are my favorite mechanics in the series. The characters are also phenomenal, they all have great depth and character development, I would die for any of them. And the whole "facing your shadow self" concept that is such a focal point in P4, originated in P2. The overall story is super well written and fast paced, which might appeal to people who think Persona games take too long to really start. The only major downside to P2 besides it's visuals is that it has random encounters. You can lower the encounter rate significantly with items though. As for Persona 3, the vanilla and FES versions are reasonably popular, but not as popular as P4 and P5. I think that's because no one played the best version, Portable. A lot of players write of Portable because outside of dungeons the game is point and click based and it doesn't have The Answer. But that isn't much to lose compared to everything Portable adds. Portable has a new female protagonist option, and her story is WAY better than the original protag's. She has new exclusive social links which are all very well written, and is the only way to social link with all of the party members, and those social links turn commonly hated characters like Junpei into the second best character in the game. Overall, every character in P3's cast is way better in Portable, to the point that it's my favorite cast in gaming history. Not to mention, who doesn't want to play Koromaru's social link? And the fem protag's story offers some really significant alterations to the main story, like the changing who lives and who dies, kind of changes. Portable is also the only version of the game where you can control all the party members in battle. And Portable has some killer exclusive music. The point and click gameplay might not be as pretty as 3D environments, but it's way easier to navigate and really cuts down on time. And The Answer is good for people who have already played P3, but it's not well written or balanced enough to warrant buying an inferior version of P3. Moral of the story, play Persona 3 Portable and the P2 games.

  • over-rated: tales of symponia

    underrated: y's series Trails subseries , Ratiata stories

  • I really wonder how far everyone calling Tales of Symphonia overrated made it into the game, because I wasn't into it at first either, and just when I thought the game was ending, the game was like "No, this is where it really begins" and became awesome after that. The first couple hours of the game especially suck compared to the rest.

  • @Mbun 20ish for me

  • I'm not the biggest JRPG specialist so take this with a grain of salt, but I have very fond, though vague, memories of Baten Kaitos on GameCube.

    It had a really original combat system based on cards that you'd draw from your deck at the start of each turn. So you could be unlucky and only get healing cards when you were at full health, or the other way around, but it was up to you to build your deck and manage proportions. It could feel unfair at times but it also made every single battle interesting and unique, even against random mobs, as you always had to adapt your strategy on the fly based on the hand you were dealt.

    Apart from that, the game was gorgeous back in the day, and the story and characters more original than your average JRPG. Again, this is all based on my vague memories, I could find it crap today, who knows.

    I rarely ever see this series mentioned so it's definitely underrated in my opinion.

  • @FutureCorpse Shadow Hearts needs more love. That first game is excellent, I liked the second, never played the third.

    Overrated - I know I'll get some flak for it, but Final Fantasy 9 has been such a chore to play through again, I basically dropped it. Final Fantasy 15 is a bit more decisive but it still reviewed well, which baffles me. It might be my least favorite in the franchise, besides something obviously bad like FF2.

    Underrated - I would normally name Shadow Hearts but it's mentioned in the OP so.... Xenogears? Yes, it frequently makes it on to "Best RPGs of ALL TIME!!!!" lists but I honestly know so few people that have played it - so maybe I'll just label it as underappreciated. Strange that some of my favorite RPGs ever made (the Persona series, Xenogears, etc.) all have such strong connections to philosophical ideas presented by people like Carl Jung.

  • I really wish they would release Shadow Hearts on the PStore, I've never played them but they sound really really interesting, and as much as I love my physical JRPGs I'd rather not throw 40$ on used copies of games I'm hoping I'll like.

  • @bard91 I'd honestly say they're worth the $40, but I understand the hesitation. The aesthetic is just so different from most JRPGs which makes it stand out, but things like the Judgement Ring really make combat fun. I'd love to see Jones give the series a try as well, since he's all about gothic horror. Koudelka was also a pretty solid game that serves as a spiritual successor to the series but I distinctly remember that game kicking my ass as a kid. Although there were some strange design decisions in that one - you could actual level your characters in such a way that healing spells were no longer effective. Still, it had a really different vibe from most of what is out there.

  • Overrated: Xenoblade Chronicles, especially among this community. I don't get 'Wow, it's an MMO, it's auto-attack action bar combat system is so nifty. Aren't DoTs and mobs and AoEs and pulling aggro and DPS so fun?'

    It has a story that spoils itself with basic checklist characters you wouldn't give the time of day in an anime because you'd seen those tropes in 10s of other things. Aren't the oversaturated environments it uses to market itself beautiful, never mind that they're flat and barren save for some pixelated ground clutter and MMO mobs with no effort put into hit detection littered all over the place. Oh, and they're filled with the kind of clunky fetch quests MMOs are notorious for which get fairly criticized in every other game except Xenoblade and Breath of the Wild (which doesn't have quite as many).

    The character-related twists are predictable and the broader world-related and endgame ones make actually no sense and exist for the sake of shock value when they're not rendering the game pointless as a whole.

    Like, I'm glad that they tried to have a story unlike most open world games and 8th gen RPGs, but trying is not the bar. Us giving a shit is, and that is something Xenoblade Chronicles continually prohibited me from doing.

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  • @Haru17 I can't fairly comment on the story as a whole as I only got a bit beyond 15 hours, but what I saw had me interested enough to keep going.

    Most other aspects of the game though, I completely agree the combat I found the combat to be boring at best and frustrating a lot of time, and the world and openness quickly lost its appeal after it endless and pointless fetch quests.

    I'm hoping to hear the opinion of 2 from people that didn't like the first to get an idea of how I may find it

  • @bard91 Well it seems that enough people reviewed 2 this time that it's getting the 7s that the first game screamed to me. And I don't think you would have reached the things that are dumbest about the story to me yet. I also don't think they're worth playing toward, but that's your call.

  • @Haru17 I have it as a very low priority with little chance of me getting it soon, I still want to revisit the original one, but yeah I'm at least keeping an eye on it

  • I was trying to fall asleep last night and the Wild Arms theme song got stuck in my head... I'd say that entire franchise is severely underrated, with 1 and 3 being the best entries. Just not enough literal western RPGs out there.

    As much as people love talking about the blue bomber coming back, he's been in a ton of games. There's another Capcom franchise that has been dormant for awhile... Breath of Fire. 3 and 4 were excellent and Dragon Quarter at least had some interesting ideas in it. As least put one of the characters in MvC... something, anything!

  • Has anyone played The Last Remnant? I was surprised when I discovered that most people hated it. Sadly it's made in Unreal, so you know there's gotta be a lot of graphical glitches and other issues. At least back at GT they gave it an 8.

    The battle system is kinda weird at first (not your typical turn-based strategy game), but once you get into it there's a lot of depth, and I certainly enjoyed it a lot. The combat is fun and really challenging, especially when you get lots of monsters in one go. Battles can go for over an hour sometimes, not even counting bosses, but the whole time you're immersed and invested, feeling like you're in a real battlefield.

    Also Baten Kaitos, especially Origins. God I miss those.

  • @Dario I remember liking The Last Remnant more than I thought I would, but it was a rental, so I never got a chance to finish it. That's when the 360 was really starved for RPGs, save for Tales of Vesperia.

  • @bard91 said in Overrated/Underrated JRPGs:

    I'm hoping to hear the opinion of 2 from people that didn't like the first to get an idea of how I may find it

    they'll tell you it's shit because they didn't like it. what else do you expect them to say?