Formula One

  • @phbz I think the race had more drama than I expected. All those punctures and some of the overtakes and battles were cool. The race is much better than the track's design.

    As for Alonso it's great to see him on the podium for the first time since 2014. I don't agree that Alonso's season has been great but it's been ok.

  • These modern circuits in the back half of the calendar don't do such a tense championship any justice. Honestly, can we just get rid of like half of these? 5 of the back 11 races have good circuits unless Saudi Arabia proves me wrong (I doubt it). It just doesn't seem worth waking up at 9am for a non-race where all passing is in the pitlane straight and nobody can follow behind in corners.

    Who designs these and who greenlights them?

  • @dipset Saudi is a pretty cool track design wise judging from racing around it on the F1 2021 game.

    Herman Tilke is usually the one credited for most of these designs and the FIA greenlights them if they are given grade 1-which means they are the only tracks worthy of hosting GPs in F1.

  • @jdincinerator

    Now that you say it, I've seen that name floating around before. So many new circuits seem so samey and have these long straights with long swooping turns that don't really allow following. Not to mention the extremely forgiving runoff areas. I hope Saudi Arabia provides decent racing because it's pitiful for a whole season to end on back-to-back-to-back duds. I almost wish Brazil was pushed to the end.

    Not sure what FIA qualifies as Grade-1 but my assumption is that the requirement is X-amount of seating in the grandstand and a serious consideration for evacuation and safety. Pretty much like a FIFA World Cup standard of like 14'000 seats and fire escapes.

  • Uhhhh wow....

    I don't even know where to begin, but I'll say the whole race left a bad taste in my mouth. From the track design, from the hospital visits for the F2 drivers, for the confused drivers resulting in crashes and penalties, for the drivers caught up in the carnage with no chance to avoid it. On one hand, it was immensely nerve wracking in a good way. On the other hand, it was just fucked up and half these issues would've been avoided had the course not been designed to basically guarantee carnage.

  • Yeah, this was a shitty race. Way too many unclear issues throughout the whole thing. And the hell were those offers? It was all just so... stupid. Like come on, be better at this, all of you involved.

  • @sentinel-beach

    I listened to the post-race interviews while playing Infinite today and both Toto, Hamilton, Horner, and Max all seem genuinely confused about the penalties and regiving positions, etc. Toto even said he didn't know if it was internal issue or FIA comms issue.

  • @sentinel-beach I disagree the race wasn't shitty it was chaotic and I love that it was like that. Yeah I know the stop/start nature grinds everything to silly putty but I'd rather all this calamity than a boring forgettable race.

  • @jdincinerator said in Formula One:

    @sentinel-beach I disagree the race wasn't shitty it was chaotic and I love that it was like that. Yeah I know the stop/start nature grinds everything to silly putty but I'd rather all this calamity than a boring forgettable race.

    I agree that I'll easily take this over a boring race. I kid you not, it was so tense at times that my stomach hurt. My big Mercedes friend whipped a pillow when Lewis hit Max.

    That being said, if you watch the race replay, the whole integrity of the race was compromised from the 1st restart at around Lap 16 and never really recovered. The debris, the VSC's, the overall confusion about boundaries and rules. It just never stopped being a shit show for about 3/4ths of the race.

    So that just feels sour.

  • @dipset Yeah I agree it was a shit show as far as rule confusion and Max's antics were perhaps too extreme. Yet I yearn for the days when drivers just raced without worrying about the rules so much. The rules make F1 so lobotomized and if they weren't there then we could simply be entertained without all the messiness.

  • Max was filthy and lucky to get out once again without any significant consequence (a 10 second penalty was added to Max because there was a dangerous deceleration but that is of no consequence) . Hamilton's collision into Max was a really dumb mistake that's on Lewis and he was fortunate to survive that, he should just stay behind Max as long as he needed but that was reckless of Max.

    I like this track design but the walls need to go. And F1 needs to have rules like any sport, this is like a football player going off the field with the ball and occasionally that being a foul and others not. There's a track, the race must be done on the track and if eventually you go out you should not gain any advantage from it. It's a shame all this shit because both Max and Ham are driving like hell but their bad behaviours shouldn't be rewarded.

  • Not sure if you guys are aware but the Abu Dhabi layout has been modified a bit to allow for better racing. I am quite pleased that these modifications have been made to allow for better racing, not sure when that's happened elsewhere in the past.

  • @jdincinerator I know about it but don't know exactly what the modifications are.

  • @phbz Here's a guide around the improved Abu Dhabi by Karun Chandok:
    Youtube Video

  • @jdincinerator Not sure what to think. I get the changes but removing more technical parts because of how current F1 cars work is not ideal. Really hope next year there's improvements.

  • Should I make this bet? Lewis is the Vegas favourite but I feel like this is Max's to lose and I don't think he's gonna lose. FYI - it's the houses money.



    I laid down $25. Fuck it.

    After FP2 this morning:

  • Kimi Räikkönen Animated, Narrated By Kimi Räikkönen

    Youtube Video

    This made me surprisingly emotional. Damn. It's over tomorrow. Kiitos Kimi for all these years. :')

  • @dipset I put down £32 on Hamilton to come 1st in qualifying and the race. I of course lost it because Max qualified 1st. Still tempted to bet on Hamilton in the race and this time it's a win-win situation because if I lose the bet then I'll be too happy that Verstappen won that it more than makes up for losing money.

  • Lmao

    What a terrible but fitting finale.

  • If this race had been a movie script, it wouldn't have been believable AT ALL. What. An. Ending. Like what the fuck, honestly. :D I'm happy it turned this way, change is good in this sport. And angry Toto is the best Toto, lolololol