Are you buying into VR this year?
Inflorescence last edited by
I would love to see AR systems like Hololens be the primary developed VR technology. I really hate how you have to seal yourself from the world, especially your co-players, in order to play VR. Hololens gets me waaaay more excited than Oculus.
Minamik last edited by
Hey, I work on VR content if anyone has any questions. Just shipped episode 1 of our game, The Gallery (currently Vive exclusive, porting to Rift and PSVR). Launch Trailer
As someone who works on that stuff, what's your take on getting it into people's hands so they can actually try it? Demo units in stores?
Nakenorm last edited by
I don't now yet, tried some demos on the oculus but haven't found a more beefier game yet. a real VR-seller.
And I've always been more of a console guy and the rumors that PSVR isn't running that great on the ps4 has made me more cautious of pre-ordering. I don't really wanna upgrade to ps4k yet.
SEEGAAAA last edited by
I had the money for PSVR saved up. Had to dip into it when things got tight last month but should be able to save enough money again in time for launch
myfatdad last edited by
Day 1, no questions asked. No demo's needed. Jesus take the weel.
Lunis last edited by
@myfatdad VR... The final frontier.
beaglebites last edited by
There are rumors PSVR will also work with PC? I'm just waiting to see how it actually performs in the field.
marcel last edited by
As a Xbox One-only gamer, I'm thinking about the PS VR and buying it with the PS4K. We'll see how it turns out and whether it will work "as advertised".
What I am hoping to see tomorrow at the Xbox conference is a Xbox One Scorpio and Oculus Rift bundle. There hasn't been anything announced just yet but since Oculus Rift is bundled with a Xbox One controller, I can imagine them striking up a partnership very soon. :punch: Fingers croosed :relaxed:
CtrlAltDeviant last edited by
My husband and I both jumped in at launch and purchased two Vives. Room scale VR with tracked controllers is amazing, and well worth saving up for! I could go on and on and gush, but really it's like everyone says: describing it never fully conveys the awesome. Trying it out is essential to fully appreciate it.
I will caution that having some solid PC savvy is highly desirable to ensure a smooth gen one VR ownership experience. If you're already comfortable as a PC gamer and are hardware knowledgeable, you're a good way there.
Guest last edited by
My other issue I neglected to mention with VR is my vision issues, I have astigmatism. I have Gear VRs for when I bought my Galaxy S7 and the biggest issue with it is you can't wear glasses with that headset, and even with the focusing thing it has everything is super blurry and just gives me a headache.
I would assume other companies did a better job than samsung, but as my first introduction to VR it's already a negative experience so I'm not eager to jump on it.
DigitalNoodle last edited by
I am not buying into VR until it proves that it is here to stay and not a fad like motion controls.
ObbyDent last edited by
Will go deep into Playstation VR once the PS4 Neo comes out.
sblomkamp last edited by
@Minamik yeah its tricky, coz VR really is highly dependent on actually trying it (im yet to demo to someone and they walk away a non-believer). Store demos are probably the best way. We do a lot of conventions too when we can, but thats a much smaller scale than store wide stuff. Failing that, buddying up with a pal who owns one i guess. The barrier to entry sucks, trust me. As a dev and a lover of the tech, i want nothing more than everyone to have a jolly time with it whenever they want.
laughingpine last edited by
I picked up a Vive. It is really cool if :
- You have the space
- You have a computer that can handle it
The arcade type games like Holoball or Holopoint are great, but it would be nice to have a full blown AAA VR game (like that Fallout 4 announcement...)
thenerdtheword last edited by
I would love to get a HTC Vive but I don't have a gaming PC to support it. Oculus seems a bit paired down compared to the Vive so I'm not interested in that. At the moment PS VR looks great to me as a mass market-ish approach to the tech.
I'm wanting to get more hands on with VR as a thing before deciding to buy though. There are a lot of cool tech demos, smaller games and "experiences" out there but no fully fledged AAA games from what I have seen. I'm guessing that will be covered in the second/third rounds of VR games for all three platforms.
Griffin last edited by
I've posted this on the Patreon page a few weeks ago, maybe this is of interest to the discussion.
During a recent trip to the Middle East I came across a PlayStation VR demo setup at the Sony store in Dubai Mall. As this was my first experience of VR, maybe it will be of interest to some of you.
The setup was in a small booth with two demos available: the shark cage and the London heist car chase (which is the one I tried). The break-out box was hidden from view, only the console was visible. It felt a bit awkward to pull the visor of PSVR back and forward to adjust the sharpness as that changed your field of view. It wasn't entirely smooth to operate and when you wear slightly bigger glasses they might bump into the headset. Interestingly the end parts on the left and right of the unit were made of rubber instead of plastic.
On the plus side the way the headset is worn doesn't cause it to press on to the earpieces of my glasses, meaning there was no pressure on the temples or any other contact point while wearing it. The adjustability that I've been shown by the guy managing the demo didn't allow for the built in lenses to replace my glasses.
Once settled in, the first impression was that the unit was very sensitive to movement. I was shifting on the chair a bit and even very slight movements of my head were converted to a changed viewpoint. The cables for the unit and headphones never got in the way either.
The demo felt fantastic. Bear in mind that this was my first VR experience, so I might exaggerate a bit. Sony is probably going for exactly that kind of reaction to get people interested. Once the scene fades in I looked down to see my virtual hands. They reacted to very small movements as well and turned or shifted just like my real hands did while holding the move controllers.
Before the action started you have some time to look around the car, which highlights some of the design challenges VR games might bring with them. You are able to open the car door and lean out, to which the driver reacts with a comment. You are also able to touch almost everything on the dashboard, like the air vents and radio tuner. Having this sort of immersion felt almost normal right from the start. You see the air vent and you can reach it so of course you'll try to move it. I think players will instinctively expect to be able to do that and if the game allows you to do so the immersion felt great.
Once you get a gun from the driver the behaviour of the triggers on the move controllers changed slightly. Normally you hold the trigger to keep holding on to something. When you hold the gun the trigger is used for shooting only. Reloading felt pretty good when bumping the two move controllers together. No idea how long the plastic lamp on it will last though if it keeps getting bumped into another controller.
What I found really cool was that the game allows interaction with items that are not in your view. You can shoot at something in front of you and use your other hand to grab for a new magazine to reload even if the magazine is not visible to you. As long as you know where to grab (glove box in front or bag to your right) the game will allow you to do so. I didn't even notice that this really happened while playing, it only became obvious while watching someone else play.
Regarding the graphics, I thought they were nice. Personally I don't believe VR needs to be hyper realistic, it just needs to be believable and consistent. I think I've noticed some pixelation when the demo started but once I had to focus on what was happening around me it all looked and felt right. Slightly related: in the menu and at the very beginning of the demo I did notice where the displays end on the left and right of my field of view. This became unnoticeable once I started playing around in the demo.
That's all I can think of right now. Let me know if you have any questions and if you have a Sony store close to you (or are in Dubai), maybe check it out as well.
tl;dr: I had a fantastic few minutes with PSVR and am quite convinced that I want to buy one.
Love & Respect!
marcel last edited by
@Griffin Cool, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to playing around with the PS VR soon.
Does anybody on here have experience with PSVR, Oculus and Vive? How do they compare?
sblomkamp last edited by sblomkamp
@marcel yeah, we are porting our game to all 3.
PSVR is the lightest and most comfortable, but it's design can lead to light leaking in on the sides in my experience (it mostly sits on your head rather than strapped to it, which feels great).
The Vive is probably the bulkiest of the three but isn't an issue when you get down to it. I'm not a massive fan of the exposed cables. It's setup is also the most complex what with the base stations being mounted and all (you don't HAVE to mount the base stations, but if you do its way more fool proof, i watched Kotaku complain about tracking issues and the guy had his base stations on what looked like a stack of shakey books. sigh). Nothing beats roomscale. holy shit, its incredible actually walking around the world with fully tracked hands. Its insanely intuitive versus a gamepad. Anyone can do it, coz its just you and the world basically.
Oculus wrongly gambled on roomscale not being as popular as it is, so I think its gonna take a few tweaks and things like Touch to get it on par (though you wont get full roomscale even then, will be 180 degree tracking, same with PSVR versus vive 360). Personally, as a consumer I'm also not too hyped about the Oculus store, I'm a firm believer in opposing exclusivity in any shape or form. But time will tell how that works out.
Performance wise rift and vive are almost identical (assuming your rig is up to it, i believe a 970 is targeted as minspec), while the PSVR is a slightly lower fidelity, but thats understandable and honestly the beautiful thing about VR is once you're in, as long as the world is consistent you will get fully immersed in ANY level of graphical fidelity (just look at minecraft or modbox all the way to more graphically intensive stuff like our game, the Gallery, or Vanishing Realms etc).
Also, there's a lot of misconceptions you HAVE to have a large space for Vive or roomscale. Thats just not true. It's scalable, from sitting still to 15ft x 15ft. As we ported to vive first i'm most familiar with that one, but as i learn more about the others i'll update you. We have them all at the office, as well as that omni treadmill and older stuff like razer hydra and so on. So much fun with all this tech
MonsTruz last edited by
With the Resident Evil annoncement I'm going to have pick up Playstation VR. It might be the less powerfull out there, but my current PC can't really run the others.
At some point i'm going to upgrade my PC, but I need Resident Evil VR day one!
sblomkamp last edited by
@MonsTruz yeah honestly you cant go wrong. I'm so glad PSVR hit the pricepoint it did. The more accessible VR is, the better