YOUR Desire Index



  • Here's my list! I feel good about the beginning and end of the list, but the middle is where I get foggy. I feel like anything from #8 to #15 could be moved around. And hopefully I can do right by TLOU2 and bump it back up.

    1. Kingdom Hearts III
    2. The Last of Us Part II
    3. Spider-Man
    4. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
    5. Cyberpunk 2077
    6. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    7. Resident Evil 2 Remake
    8. Ghost of Tsushima
    9. Death Stranding
    10. Dragon Quest XI
    11. Red Dead Redemption 2
    12. Fallout 76
    13. Control
    14. Dreams
    15. Devil May Cry 5
    16. Anthem
    17. Babylon's Fall
    18. Pokemon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu
    19. Halo: Infinite
    20. The Elder Scrolls VI
    21. Darksiders III
    22. Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    23. Skull & Bones
    24. Gears 5
    25. Forza Horizon 4
    26. Sonic Team Racing
    27. Call of Duty: Black Ops IV
    28. Crackdown 3


  • My Desire Index:

    1. Resident Evil 2 Remake
    2. Kingdom Hearts 3
    3. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
    4. Devil May Cry 5
    5. Dragon Quest XI
    6. The Last of Us Part II
    7. Babylon's Fall
    8. Spiderman
    9. Super Smash Brothers Ultimate
    10. Red Dead Redemption 2
    11. Anthem
    12. Ghost of Tsushima
    13. Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! & Let's Go, Evee!
    14. Control
    15. Fallout 76
    16. Cyberpunk 2077
    17. Sonic Team Racing
    18. Gears 5
    19. Skull and Bones
    20. The Elder Scrolls VI
    21. Halo Infinite
    22. Call of Duty: Black Ops 4


  • I feel like, for me, below about 12 my interest completely falls off and it's more a task of grading the degrees in how uninterested I am. I enjoyed what I played of Witcher 3, but that "in engine" trailer and the news that it's first person have got me hard out right now on Cyberpunk 2077.

    I'm just now playing through The Last of Us, so I don't really know where exactly Part 2 fits on my index other than it looks cool, lol.

    Ghost of Tsushima, I've got super low because, honestly, I hated the way the controls feel in the Infamous games, and I've already got Sekiro and Nioh 2 coming to scratch that particular itch.

    Skull and Bones, I just see going the same way as Sea of Thieves, but with even less to do since it's just ship combat.

    But how about some positivity! Everything from 1 to 6 on my list could be number one, and I'd be fine with it. And my hypocrisy shines through with number 7 for Babylon's Fall, cause I can only imagine good things coming from another Square Enix/ Platinum collaboration.



  • Update 3.3 is here! While CyberPunk has always been a solid number 1, Spiderman is the game that’s finally within shouting distance. There’s still a sizeable gap, but Spiderman is closer than any game has been in a long time.

    Resident Evil 2 Remake and Red Dead Redemption 2 are tied, but RE2: R gets the nod with not one but two highest desires. This bumps RE2: R up two spots!

    Ghost of Tsushima trails those two games by just 0.2, and holds a slim 0.1 edge over Kingdom Hearts III.

    The Last of Us Part II is ahead of Sekiro the same amount Sekiro is ahead of Smash: 0.1. This means like Resident Evil 2 Remake, TLoU Pt. II and Sekiro move up two spots, and by default, forces Smash down two spots.

    Devil May Cry 5 holds a 0.2 lead over Control, which is a big loser in this update, falling three spots out of the top 10.

    There’s a clear divide between the top and bottom halves, with Dragon Quest XI occupying a distance from everything around it. It’s closer to Control than Fallout 76, so I consider it the bottom of the top half. Speaking of Fallout, it’s ahead of Babylon’s Fall by 0.3.

    There was no movement from 12th (Dragon Quest XI) to 18th (Gears 5).

    Anthem gets ahead of Sonic Team Racing, going from 0.05 behind to 0.4 ahead.

    Black Ops trails Pokemon Let’s Go by more than two whole points, a bigger difference than anything except MAYBE CyberPunk had that kind of lead after the first update. I can’t remember. Either way, yeah. What I said in the last update: Black Ops IV is LOCKED in last.



  • Out of curiosity, is there anything the new COD could announce that would cause anyone to raise their ranking for it?



  • @SabotageTheTruth I must have missed it then. When I read it, it came across as "This is going to be awful and I'm happy it's at the bottom!" This is NOT to say that is your sentiment, only what I read it as.

    @Mbun

    Thanks. I talk way too much.

    I can understand about the marketing, ESPECIALLY the Paris Games Week trailer. TLoU has never been shy about showing graphic violence, but that hammer bit was surprising. As for the E3 demo, I figured we would get something heavily edited, and sure enough we did. Granted, the gameplay takes place after the dance (as evidenced by Ellie's hair length and a bracelet she's wearing that her friend is wearing at the dance), so it feeds the narrative the game will have time jumps. What gets me excited from that demo is the fluid motion of the bottle throw, pulling the arrow out as a gameplay mechanic, arrows don't disappear when you pick them up, but are realistically put into the quiver, and the facial animations of all the enemies. Those kinds of things really have captured my attention and imagination.

    As I said in my wall, Gears Tactics would be my introduction into the strategy genre because I agree about it being fresh and exciting, but because I don't game on PC, I'm going to miss out.

    For Anthem, I'm just not into playing with others for the most part. I've been burned so many times in getting a game on the promise or belief my friends were also getting it, and they don't. Borderlands, Titanfall, Halo, Left 4 Dead... I just can't trust them to get Anthem, and I don't trust strangers online. It's why I passed HARD on Sea of Thieves, and will completely pass on Skull & Bones. Plus the points you brought up from the Q&A are also great reminders why I'm bummed out about it as well.

    Something else in regards to Spiderman I should have said is I'm not into superheros or comic based franchises at all, with Batman being a lone exception, and only certain things pertaining to it. So that's something else against Spiderman for me.

    I kind of feel the same about Babylon's Fall, but I need to know what it IS before really committing to it.

    I got Melee as a kid because it was always a game I heard about NEEDING when having a GameCube and since I didn't have any friends at the time, it just wasn't really fun. I've never really been into it, but I respect the sheer pandemonium it caused when it was announced.

    I really hope Huber does a full playthrough of RE4 before January. I don't watch full playthroughs (I typically don't like streams for the most part), but I enjoyed watching him go through all of RE 7, and RE 4 is the one game right now that I never want to play, but wouldn't watching someone else go through it. And because I'm a fan of his, I only want to watch a Huber playthrough. And if the Hall of Greats playthroughs return, hopefully I get my wish.

    Allow me to clear up some confusion in regards to Pokemon: I don't like the 3D models post Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, there are WAY too many Pokemon even by that point, the Pikachu/Eevee on your shoulder is a fun and better addition to the gameplay, but it's a personal turn-off as I'm so used to just being the character, the peripheral is a CLEAR cash grab (plus locking away Mew behind it? More like 'Ew.'), and I've heard the battling is different from what I like in OG Pokemon. But again, all of that is just personal preference and I'm fine not following the franchise anymore.

    In terms of art-style, I know it comes across kind of poorly, but I'm a believer of: If you don't like something your looking at, why look at it unless you're forced to? Aside from not being into Anime in general, there's just something about the art I find unappealing. I DO like how DQ XI looks incredibly smooth in its animation though.

    As for Sonic.... I don't know. I just never found him interesting. Generational difference I suppose.



  • @sabotagethetruth I suppose if the BR mode is somehow completely revolutionary and mindblowing it could move up a few slots on my list. The pipe dream would be a fantastic campaign, but seeing as how there is no campaign period, I don't think even Huber could will this into existence.



  • @smoothrunes Yep, I feel like that BR is really make or break with this newest entry. Should be interesting considering we haven't seen what a AAA development team would do with a full-priced royale game and we're getting two of them this year... that we haven't seen anything from at all.



  • Listening to the podcast and being reminded about the whole season pass fiasco, yeah I'm gonna bump down COD to last place.



  • Oo lists!

    People are not gonna like mine I suspect.

    1. The Last of Us Part 2 (the feels are out of control! and the detail in the gameplay. holy moly. GOTY)
    2. Control (remedy metroidvania with a cool story and protagonist? hell yes!)
    3. Forza Horizon 4 (Horizon 3 is one of my favourite games ever. Like top 20)
    4. Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Tomb Raider gets a lot of hate but I love Indiana Jones-esque adventures too much)

    == DAY ONE BUY THRESHOLD ==

    1. Red Dead Redemption 2 (looks very cool. haven't played the prev 2 tho)
    2. Spider-Man (best iterative improvement genre game)
    3. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (looks very cool, but I've played many souls-games and I'm not sure yet)
    4. Cyberpunk 2077 (too far off, if it was a 2018 title it would fight with TLOU and Control for the top, probably third)
    5. Death Stranding (Looks pretty cool. Never write off Kojima. Don't really know what it is or when it comes out yet)

    == WILL PLAY EVENTUALLY THRESHOLD ==

    1. Kingdom Hearts 3 (not a huge KH fan and it is still this high)
    2. Ghost of Tsushima (looks pretty good but something is off with the animations. looks.. clunky somehow)
    3. Halo: Infinite (we don't know what it is but I liked the vibe of the new trailer, it has potential for something new which halo needs desperately. I did not enjoy most of 5)
    4. Anthem (I liked what I saw but weirdly not blown away yet. I even loved most of Andromeda but this looks even more open world which is a minus. I want more focus on story, not less.)

    == PROBABLY NEVER GONNA PLAY THRESHOLD ==

    1. Darksiders III (Could be fun. Not invested in the franchise)
    2. Devil May Cry 5 (I loved even DMC2 but the new trailer felt kind of old)
    3. Babylon's Fall (we don't even know what it is, maybe its good?)
    4. Gears 5 (Intrigued but gears is kind of where halo is.. feels like I found some good but old shoes again with some new shine)
    5. Resident Evil 2 (Haven't played any RE games. Though all that talk of 4 made me buy it on sale recently. Eventually I'll get there. Maybe)
    6. Fallout 76 (Some interesting ideas but I'm not a fallout fan and it seems to have even less story and more emergent gameplay which is not really my thing)
    7. Sonic Team Racing (Loooooved Racing Transformed. This looks worse unfortunately.)
    8. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (I like smash but this looks like DLC to the Wii U version to me)
    9. Skull & Bones (Looks cool but not really interested atm)
    10. The Elder Scrolls VI (too far off its not even on my radar. also after oblivion I felt kind of.. done with the series. there's so much new to play)
    11. Dragon Quest XI (sorry haven't played any DQ and the trailers look pretty bad. I don't understand the hype)

    == NO THRESHOLD ==

    1. Dreams (Sorry Jones. Creation games are just never my jam)
    2. Crackdown 3 (Sorry, can't care.)
    3. Pokemon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (I've never played any Pokemon games and this seems worse than most ducks flying vegetables)
    4. Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII (Agree with Huber. This is awful. Terrible monetization, no SP or Coop, same price. wth?)


  • @bennysce I don't think there's anything too controversial there, though Resi 2 being so low might get you the side-eye from some folk.



  • @smoothrunes glad I'm not decapitated yet :) maybe I put it a bit too low even for me. Maybe around Fallout 76 somewhere would be better. I liked the reveal at E3 but I don't understand why it is so hyped. I'm not into gore or horror at all though so that kind of puts it low by default for me. And I'm pretty over zombies at this point in general. There's just been too much of it the last 10-15 years. Like everywhere. So anything with zombies is gonna have a hard time on my lists currently.



  • @bennysce I agree that zombies have become over-saturated in the entertainment medium, but Resi gets a pass because there's so much more to it than zombies, with tons of iconic monsters over the years, plus zombie games as of late seem to focus on either fast paced wave attack repelling or open world survival, so getting one that is going to focus on survival horror and claustrophobia is a welcome addition to the scene.



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  • Updated my list. Spidey #1 now! I also noticed that I wanted to change many of my previous standings and not just add the five new games into the mix.



  • Updated my list.

    Current top 5:

    1. Resident Evil 2 Remake
    2. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
    3. Babylon's Fall
    4. Ghost of Tsushima
    5. Cyberpunk 2077

    Ghost of Tshushima is the "big addition" for me this week. It isn't toppling Sekiro's position anytime soon but it's only 2 spots behind, and in fact I'm knocking Cybperpunk down to number 5 to give Tshushima my love! I'm a sucker for swords and ancient Japanese settings, I admit.

    I'm iffy on how the combat works in Ghost of Tshushima though and what a "typical one-to-two hour play session" is going to feel like, those are factors that could lower my desire index if it doesn't meet my expectations. (Same for Cyberpunk). But as my prominent ranking of Babylon's Fall suggests, the games on my index can be buoyed by my hopes, imagination, and wishes for what each game could turn out to be.

    @minamik said in YOUR Desire Index:

    I feel like, for me, below about 12 my interest completely falls off and it's more a task of grading the degrees in how uninterested I am. I enjoyed what I played of Witcher 3, but that "in engine" trailer and the news that it's first person have got me hard out right now on Cyberpunk 2077.

    Sort of the same here. I wouldn't say I'm "completely uninterested" in any single player game on the bottom half of my list, but I feel very "checked out" for all those games. In fact, as it stands right now, I feel like only my top 2 games (RE2 and Sekiro) are 100% gauranated playthroughs (i.e, I'm confident I'm actually going to play them). Life and other games compete for my time, so even though I want to play lots of the games on my list, each spot below the top 2 invariably possesses an increasing dose of "but will it get crowded out by something else once that free time opens up?"

    @sabotagethetruth said in YOUR Desire Index:

    Out of curiosity, is there anything the new COD could announce that would cause anyone to raise their ranking for it?

    Technically "no" due to the way you phrased your question (implying the announcement should be realistic) buuut... a Single Player Campaign!!! That would increase it at least 2 slots for me. I've never played Call of Duty nor do I think the franchise is particularly in my wheelhouse, but right now it's in my mental category of "games that I don't play anymore" (online). If it had a single player campaign, it would be in the category of "single player FPS game that I might enjoy if I did play it, but which I'm expecting not to play."



  • @smoothrunes ok I can see that. and I understand the legacy and nostalgia for people and how good the remake seems to be. I'm just way more hyped for things like last of us, control and red dead (tho open worlds are starting to bother me too xD)



  • @sabotagethetruth Not for me, and the same applies to Anthem. Not only are they not appealing to me just based on the games themselves but I also have the companies pretty much blacklisted so I don't think anything realistic could happen to have me interested in them.



  • looking forward to next week. still some good ones that need to be squeezed in somewhere. it's definitely getting real hard.



  • @brannox said:

    I really hope Huber does a full playthrough of RE4 before January.

    He did one back at GT already. Lots of fun memes came outta that playthrough. You can probably find it on Youtube still.

    I don't like the 3D models post Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald

    I miss the sprites sure, but some Pokemon do genuinely look better modeled in 3D. Also, during Treehouse they pointed out that the sprites are still in Let's GO. They're just used now for your party menu or something instead. I can't remember tbh.

    there are WAY too many Pokemon even by that point

    Luckily most of the games have a breezy regional dex if you're the catch 'em all kind of guy. Also Let's GO is confirmed only to have the first 151 Pokemon, Alolan forms of those, and 1 new Pokemon.

    the peripheral is a CLEAR cash grab (plus locking away Mew behind it? More like 'Ew.')

    Maybe? I think it is a fun idea to immerse new players. Honestly, it isn't so much a cash grab as it is trying to push the playerbase into Pokemon GO after the game, since the device works as the new model of the Pokemon GO Plus watch thing. It is GameFreak and Niantic scratching each other's backs.

    As for the Mew it comes with, back in the day the only way to get Mew was to be extremely lucky and win a magazine contest or to go to a tourney or something special later where they had a Mew download station. It was always this extra thing. Sure, later people figured out how to glitch the game into spawning the Mew encounter, but that was never intended. Mew was always something like this, and this is a more clever way of distributing Mew than having to go to GameStop randomly some week after launch. Also, even if it was just marketing, I liked when on Treehouse they said the idea was that they wanted the Pokeball Plus to come with a Pokemon inside when you bought it, so kids on the way home could shake it and hear the Pokemon and get excited. That's definitely a special moment they're trying to create that kids will remember, and I'd rather they do it with the classic "must be nice" of Pokemon than lock the traditional Starter Pokemon behind it. I'm more offended by them locking Alolan Forms behind Pokemon GO, but again the entire point of this game is cross promotion between the two, and even that makes sense as Alolan Forms by lore shouldn't show up in Kanto normally.

    If you don't like something your looking at, why look at it unless you're forced to?

    Well, it might always grow on you if you give it a chance to.

    As for Sonic.... I don't know. I just never found him interesting. Generational difference I suppose.

    Honestly, after more than a decade of mediocre 3D games, a horrible fandom, and tons of memes surrounding him Sonic is just kinda an easy target. The roots of Sonic and the design behind those early games are pretty interesting when you dig in though. I think he's a pretty well thought out mascot too. Definitely prefer him to Mario. Mario is really weird when you break him down as a character.