I've come to a decision...



  • @darthammii yeah but from my experience ratchet isnt really much about its actual platforms and more about its weapons(from what i played, admittedly isnt much). LBP is a great platformer but it being mainly physics based usually off puts a lot of people from playing it more seriously . 3d Mario is way more mechanically complex and that might be ultimately why it doesn't break into the mainstream as much as the 2d ones. You'd probably like 3d world more.



  • @bigdude1 Doubt it, I tried 3D Land and Galaxy and couldn't stand them either.


  • Banned

    @darthammii Do you like Smash?
    Because if you don't like Smash you may be allergic to fun.



  • @el-shmiablo he's probably a Waluigi supporter...



  • @el-shmiablo Never played it, but I don't like/have an attachment to any of the characters apart from Solid Snake. I love PlayStation All-Stars though, but I prefer the characters in that.

    I think it's safe to say Nintendo just aren't for me, lol. A lot of the games that they make and people view as classics or masterpieces, I just get bored when watching or trying them. Didn't like Odyssey, got bored of Ocarina, HATE Animal Crossing, and found Splatoon 2 slow. But you can't say I haven't tried.



  • @darthammii how can you say that Snake is the only character in Smash bros you like?

    you listed a total of 3 Nintendo franchise's that are in Smash bros.

    there aren't even Nintendo only characters in Smash Bros. but from all of video gaming

    There's Mario
    There's Snake, as you already mentioned
    There's Sonic
    There's Megaman
    There's Street Fighter
    There's Castlevania
    There's Pac Man
    There's Final Fantasy, and not just Final Fantasy, but a fucking Final Fantasy 7 character that's from a Playstation exclusive game.

    to say you don't like any of these other franchise's that are represented in Smash is like saying you hate video gaming as an Entire Medium. i don't think Smash Bros is the problem, i think you're just determined to hate it because Smash is a Nintendo exclusive game.



  • @yoshi
    You can be attached to those franchises without really caring about there inclusion in Smash. As a FF fan, there are plenty of things with FF characters in them that I don't really care about. It can be for any number of reasons from not like the genre of game, to not feel the FF present is strong enough or a combination of those and other things.
    You're being overly defensive here.



  • @sacred-arfaid even if i am i still highly doubt that he's ever even played a Super Smash Bros game in his entire life before.

    i mean aside from a 1 time only Smash Bros clone game on PS3.



  • Why does everyone have to like Smash, or Mario, or Zelda, or any other Nintendo franchise? I mean I love me some smash and I've got no gripes about Mario but it takes a lot to get me to care about a Zelda game and even then the only one I have any real attachment to is Wind Waker.

    As for not feeling attached to any smash characters I totally understand that, until the Inklings were shown for Ultimate I never felt any kind of personal attachment to someone in the game. Even as a born and raised sega guy Sonic was never "my" character in brawl or 4.



  • @hanabi said in I've come to a decision...:

    Why does everyone have to like Smash, or Mario, or Zelda, or any other Nintendo franchise?

    did i say everyone has to like Smash? no i didn't
    did i say that every has to like Nintendo franchise's either? no i didn't.

    @hanabi said in I've come to a decision...:

    As for not feeling attached to any smash characters I totally understand that, until the Inklings were shown for Ultimate I never felt any kind of personal attachment to someone in the game. Even as a born and raised sega guy Sonic was never "my" character in brawl or 4.

    i never said he has to feel a personal attachment to someone in the game either.

    I've never played a Castlevania game or a Final Fantasy game before and i suck ass at Street Fighter. but that doesn't mean i can't recognise how important and significant those franchise's are to the industry and videogaming culture as a whole and it certainly doesn't mean i can't find things to like about them either.

    you can still find things to like about a game, especially in a crossover game as massive as this one is, even if you don't like the gameplay much (or in this case haven't even tried the gameplay of it)

    playing Zelda, Animal Crossing and Splatoon and then simply going "that's it i don't like Nintendo games at all. they just aren't for me" and blowing off Smash Bros without even trying is just being a negative nancy.

    he even said he like's Playstation All Stars. you know, the Super Smash Bros clone?

    ok he likes the characters in that game more than the ones on the Nintendo roster? that's fine. but if he likes Playstation All Stars Battle Royale, why wouldn't he like the actual gameplay of Super Smash Bros? the gameplay is pretty much the same. forget the characters.



  • Attachment is the key factor in this and one of the major draws to a crossover type game. You need to be into a good chunk of the characters in the game and he doesn't feel like he does. He has an alternative to Smash that he has the attachment to in the form of All Stars, so Smash isn't of high value to him.


  • Banned

    @yoshi bro, chill



  • @yoshi said in I've come to a decision...:

    @darthammii how can you say that Snake is the only character in Smash bros you like?

    you listed a total of 3 Nintendo franchise's that are in Smash bros.

    there aren't even Nintendo only characters in Smash Bros. but from all of video gaming

    There's Mario
    There's Snake, as you already mentioned
    There's Sonic
    There's Megaman
    There's Street Fighter
    There's Castlevania
    There's Pac Man
    There's Final Fantasy, and not just Final Fantasy, but a fucking Final Fantasy 7 character that's from a Playstation exclusive game.

    to say you don't like any of these other franchise's that are represented in Smash is like saying you hate video gaming as an Entire Medium. i don't think Smash Bros is the problem, i think you're just determined to hate it because Smash is a Nintendo exclusive game.

    How is saying that I don't like Megaman, Castlevania, ect, in any way saying that I hate video games? Also, implying that I bought Nintendo systems and games with the intent of reaffirming my love for PlayStation is idiotic, you may have that much spare time and money but I don't.



  • @darthammii said:

    Never played it (Smash)
    I love PlayStation All-Stars though

    You should love Smash then, even if you aren't familiar with or into a portion of the characters. There's characters in Smash people didn't even know at all as a kid like Ness, Marth, Captain Falcon, etc. who they found out about through Smash, and it would probably be the same for you if you gave it a fair shake as you've admitted to liking the worse imitation knockoff clone of Smash. Assuming you're not just a fanboy who only loves Playstation All-Stars, solely because you love Playstation and the characters.

    All that said, obviously you wouldn't want a console for ONE game, although I'd still argue there's got to be some sick indies and stuff on Switch you'd be into if you were willing to look. That's the key though. If you aren't even willing to see what's on the table, then of course you'll walk away feeling disappointed as you apparently have. Now if your intention was simply to test which first party Nintendo franchises you might be into, instead of buying a Switch, I would've recommended buying a SNES Classic. That way you could have a taste of Mario RPG (now Paper Mario), Yoshi, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Star Fox, F-Zero, Punch Out, Metroid, Mother, etc. and see which of those you're into, plus there's plenty third parties also on the SNES Classic if you're somehow into none of those. Sure you don't get the modern franchises like Animal Crossing, Pikmin, ARMS, and Splatoon, but you've already tested Animal Crossing and Splatoon, and those other two are pretty niche anyways to the point where I'd safely say you probably aren't into them if you didn't see them and immediately have interest or love RTS games in the case of Pikmin.

    It is a shame you didn't hold onto the Switch until the end of the year as you said before, because Smash would've also been a great way to expose yourself to many franchises you're not familiar with and see which ones you like.



  • @mbun I had both a NES & SNES mini, but not growing up with those consoles I just couldn't get into the games, So I gave them both to my sister.

    @Mbun Said:

    Assuming you're not just a fanboy who only loves PlayStation All-Stars, solely because you love PlayStation and the characters.

    To be honest, you assumed wrong.



  • @mbun Pretty much.

    there is just so much shit in Smash that'd you be pretty hard pressed to not like anything in it at all.

    anyway someones probably gonna flag me just for opening my mouth at all as usual so back to lurking i go.



  • @yoshi said in I've come to a decision...:

    there is just so much shit in Smash that'd you be pretty hard pressed to not like anything in it at all.

    More doesn't always result in better. I don't like sushi, so telling me there's a restaurant with largest choice of dishes wouldn't exactly get me in the door.



  • @darthammii said in I've come to a decision...:

    I don't like sushi, so telling me there's a restaurant with largest choice of dishes wouldn't exactly get me in the door.

    better never travel to japan then i guess. you'd starve.



  • There is a difference between not liking anything at all and having a enough to gain and keep you interest. You can like things in a game but not feel they're is enough to pull the trigger on a purchase. I feel like your losing sight of that fact in your defense of Smash.



  • @yoshi This is a conversation I've had with my cousin loads, and we basically came to the conclusion that we'd live off KFC and crisps lol