Cyperpunk twitter account makes a transphobic joke and apologizes



  • What in the hell has the world come to that you need to apologise for that...



  • It was a stupid and insensitive tweet and whoever is in charge of the official Twitter should know better.



  • A@tokyoslim said in That's News!:

    It was a stupid and insensitive tweet and whenever is in charge of the official Twitter should know better.

    I don't know what to say..



  • I mean, there's not much TO say, knowing you can't tweet disparaging jokes is kinda part of the job for a PR person or community manager or what have you. Whether or not you intend to hurt someone, it's literally in your job description to take into account the ways in which people will interpret your messaging. This wasn't some dev or intern on his off time, this was the official verified Cyberpunk Twitter account during the biggest games conference in Europe. It was a bad call.

    And yes, the person posting the personal info on ERA was wrong, the info was quickly removed and literally everyone in that thread told them they were an a-hole for posting it. Just to provide context for an out of context post.



  • @tokyoslim said in That's News!:

    I mean, there's not much TO say, knowing you can't tweet disparaging jokes is kinda part of the job for a PR person or community manager or what have you. Whether or not you intend to hurt someone, it's literally in your job description to take into account the ways in which people will interpret your messaging. This wasn't some dev or intern on his off time, this was the official verified Cyberpunk Twitter account during the biggest games conference in Europe. It was a bad call.

    That literally sounds like an impossible job. What can potentially "offend" someone is undefinable. We literally all need to grow up and grow a pair.



  • @tokyoslim this much is true in that it was a bad call, the outrage over this however is insane to me despite the fact that I agree with the sentiment the reaction is just too much in my mind.



  • That literally sounds like an impossible job. What can potentially "offend" someone is undefinable. We literally all need to grow up and grow a pair.

    Well, it's certainly not impossible, since there's thousands of brands out there with official Twitter accounts that don't tweet transphobic jokes out

    "Growing up" means taking responsibility for your words and actions, and having some empathy. I would agree that more people need to do that.



  • @bard91 what outrage though? There's a few people not buying the game because of the unsatisfactory way in which CDPR is handling itself, there's a few people that think the person behind the Twitter account should probably be fired. There's a few people upset that the apology was so milquetoast that it took no responsibility for what was said and worded it so as to deflect blame onto "those offended". Nobody is organizing a boycott. The one person posting personal info was swiftly dealt with. People are upset at CDPR for how they handled this, and that's fine.


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    @sheria Why does being considerate of others sound like an impossible job to you?



  • @el-shmiablo said in That's News!:

    @sheria Why does being considerate of others sound like an impossible job to you?

    Because there's no definable boundaries. Everyone's different.





  • @sheria Unless you're talking about how cosmically nothing we do matters and good and bad are human constructs (which is esoteric as hell, but bullshit in context), that's a disingenuous argument to make in this circumstance.



  • @tokyoslim that much I honestly have not seen, what I knew of the story was limited to.

    They made a tweet and people got angry at the tweet, expressing how they would not be supporting the game, and in some cases do calling out the company and close to suggesting a boycott.

    I honestly hadn't heard anything about the apology or any controversy about it so I can't comment on that, but for the rest from my perspective it just seems like something incredibly blown out of proportion.



  • @dmcmaster you probably meant to tag me and not axel, but because one person makes a YouTube video claiming there's a huge backlash and that people are out to destroy CDPR doesn't mean it's true. I am in the thread on ERA referenced earlier and while people are understandably mad at how CDPR PR is handling this situation, and there are individual people claiming they won't buy the game because of this (and other continued pr misfires of this nature) there is nobody out to destroy CDPR and talks of boycotting have been swiftly shut down. The only people suggesting a mass boycott have generally been exaggerating in bad faith.



  • @tokyoslim
    actually meant to post that just to help explain the situation, also meant for that to be posted 2ish hours ago, but work Wi-Fi is spotty as hell.



  • @bard91 I generally think it's best to ask why someone is upset with something rather than to just knee jerk that they are overreacting by being upset. Like, if your wife or gf is mad, and you don't know why, assuming she's overreacting is usually the wrong call.





  • @tokyoslim I understand the sentiment and the reason why someone could be upset, I still think there was overreaction and that the reaction I saw (which may well have been too focused on a few specific cases) was ridiculous based on what happened.



  • @bard91 Yes, I think you're probably right that a handful of people have reacted exceptionally strongly, but as far as I can see, it's not as sensational as the headlines for those videos posted above would lead you to believe. Plenty of people are upset. Most of them that were buying the game before are still planning on playing the game. I have seen no indication that anyone is trying to "destroy" CDPR over a tweet. (or if there is someone, I see no traction) They'd just prefer that CDPR/CDP/GOG stop tweeting out stuff like this and the GamerGate tweet from a month ago. I see no mass overreaction though.



  • @tokyoslim Not to make this whole thing go on even longer when I find this more politics than news, but I find it exceedingly silly people get this upset for a meme that is the equivalent of a rib jab poking fun at extremest behavior within a larger community. Calling this "transphobic" is like calling Jones saying "Hurt Me Daddy" on the podcast "kinkphobic". They're both joke memes stemmed from playfully poking fun at cultures people themselves do not share but may find themselves involved in, and while either could be potentially used as a slight with intent to harm someone, (as just about anything can be) the person who tweeted that clearly did not do so with such intent, as it was used more as an actually inclusive joke that in the Cyberpunk 2077 world people are so augmented that you might not be able to tell someone's sex or gender solely from their outward appearance as these things are more complexly blended together with a larger available spectrum due to all the future technology available to be whatever you identify with or want to be.

    If members of the LGBT community were offended by this despite good intentions behind it, then okay I can understand wanting an apology, but they've apologized now, so people should be willing to forgive and move on. Saying the person should be fired for a tweeting a meme clearly not meant to upset anyone, even after apologizing, is the kind of extremest attitude that will drive a further wedge of hatred between people within the LGBT community and those outside it as this makes people feel like the entire community is too sensitive to take playful joke ribbing that no other community gets to be above or immune from. We should be able to poke fun at the differences we share simply from a cultural exchange standpoint as long as we do so responsibly and are willing to apologize anytime someone's feelings get hurt in the process. If we can't use dumb memes (or comedy in general) to expose one another to finer happenings within communities and culture without getting ourselves in trouble, then we're only working to further segregate and separate people from another, which will only lead to more ignorance and hatred that could been prevented by letting our cultures blend naturally with time for people to adjust to concepts they're unfamiliar with. Comedians have done this with all kinds of different emerging cultures throughout time, and I don't believe any one community should be too sacred to get their jabs like everyone else.

    I'm guessing some people will hate me for this post and take it as some kind of attack or "this side versus that side" nonsense, but we can't more forward if people live in fear and have to internalize feelings and opinions rather than holding open discussions and attempting to understand where one another are coming from. On that note, I grew up heavily on comedians saying controversial things and pushing what was "acceptable to society" forward by making people comfortable to it through laughter. Many at some point have had to apologize for going too far, which is good that people are willing to own up to mistakes and let others know they didn't want to hurt their feelings, but I don't believe in burning people risking themselves at the stake for innocent attempts at making others smile.