Cyperpunk twitter account makes a transphobic joke and apologizes



  • Leaving the entire conversation in tact so people can see why some members have been banned. If you can't talk about this like civil people, the same will apply.

    @el-shmiablo - You have points in your post that I agree with but you stepped over the line. Think about that in future. We can discuss when you're back.

    @Mcgeezaks - You're basically just digging as much as you can. The comments you made, clearly are offensive and you just kept going with it. You don't need to worry about the forums anymore.

    If anyone wants to continue with this interaction, you can take it to PM with the mods. Back on topic please.



  • i really wouldn't call it transphobic. In fact you would hear similar arguments in the trans community how you cant just look at someone and assume.

    either way, obviously its not smart to really have interactions like this. but you do see official twitters like sonic the hedgehog attempt and with greater success similar edgy responses. I guess it comes down to choosing the right jokes in this current political climate.

    I will say this though, people have not gotten fired for more and work in mainstream journalist outlets. but its "ok" if the target isn't a minority and that doesn't make sense either.



  • @tokyoslim Unrelated but iv seen some swastika shit being sold in Harujuku and was genuinely confused. and im not even talking about hindu stuff. i mean read background black swastika stuff. Is it not as big of a deal there?

    https://www.vice.com/sv/article/xd5bdd/nazis-chic-is-asias-offensive-fashion-craze-456

    imagine if shit like that happened here



  • I dont see it as a big deal however im a straight guy so i really have no right to say whether its offensive or not , however in charge of the Social media page of a big company like that you really shouldnt joke about stuff like that.



  • @bigdude1 yeah, it's not a great look. I haven't personally seen any of that.



  • @tokyoslim while i personally never seen someone with nazi shit on, i have seen it for sale.

    but walking around tokyo i have seen a lot of american army/airforce apparel.


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    Broadly speaking, the theoretical collapse of barrier between sex and gender in a transhumanist context that a setting like cyberpunk ironically makes a meme-y joke like that theoretically passable.

    The problem of course is the rest of us out here in reality have not achieved the possibility of cybernetic body swapping. And historically those that do attempt to deviate from their factory default settings have been met with great social adversity.

    With 280 whole characters they probably could've sounded more contrite. But the whole matter of doxxings, large scale boycotts of gog.com and cdproject red's other works seems a bit much.

    @bigdude1 said in Cyperpunk twitter account makes a transphobic joke and apologizes:

    @tokyoslim Unrelated but iv seen some swastika shit being sold in Harujuku and was genuinely confused. and im not even talking about hindu stuff. i mean read background black swastika stuff. Is it not as big of a deal there?

    https://www.vice.com/sv/article/xd5bdd/nazis-chic-is-asias-offensive-fashion-craze-456

    imagine if shit like that happened here

    I saw a few videos online talking about the phenomenon and I guess the simple answer is that Japanese world history texts don't really dive too deeply into the holocaust. It's probably part being from both having allied with Germany and lost along with uncomfortable questions something like that might bring up in relation to Japanese treatment of other east Asian countries they occupied.

    Generally speaking, Japan has trended towards maintaining a sort of Japanese monoculture by not allowing much outside immigration which means they're basically insulated from any of the survivors of the holocaust so for them it's like rediscovering the cool graphic design based on ancient eastern religions that people in 1930s Germany thought was so cool they made it into their national symbol.



  • @Bigdude1 said:

    you do see official twitters like sonic the hedgehog attempt and with greater success similar edgy responses

    As I said above, they have an entire team working together for that to make sure nobody crosses the line, and I think they've said someone at Sega basically has to approve anything they're unsure about or maybe that involved Sega IP directly? I think they've done a talk on it somewhere before, but I don't have that link on me. Either way, I imagine it is way more involved than the average Social Media PR team.

    @ochi We're probably flailing way off topic here, but there's an entire sect of Nazi anime fans outside Japan even, and it is one of the weirdest phenomenon. Guess it is just people combining interests. There are people out there who idolize Nazis, not for the horrible inhuman things they did, but for their military presence, which is a whole other can of worms I'm personally happy to not share fascination with.

    For all the people who think this isn't news and don't really want to talk about this, let me just remind you at the bottom of the page you can click Not Watching and set it to Ignore, then you won't see the topic anymore. Posting angry comments at other people discussing this will only further bump the topic, get you in trouble, and bother others, so there's no reason on any level you should be doing this.



  • @ochi that's pretty off-topic, but not really surprising to me to be honest, for as much as I like Japan and there are things about their culture I really like, their isolationism and general ignorance of the outside is really not one of them, and overall there are some serious problems they have in their society.



  • @bard91 Been living in Japan for 5 years and yeah, like any society on this planet, they have problems. However, if you ask me, i am happy that here we can still have a conversation or joke about any topic (literally anything) if people don't believe you have any harming intentions or you are going to commit felony crimes...which i can't say about some other countries at this point...



  • Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill....

    Jesus, get over it.



  • @arglebarglefooferah It's very easy to ignore a topic.

    Don't drive by post again.



  • Is this turning into ResetEra?

    Person makes a topic, I gave my opinion on it.

    Are we only allowed to have specific opinions now?


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    @arglebarglefooferah

    It's all in attitude and delivery. Saying something glib like "get over it" doesn't do much to further the conversation.

    And generally speaking, the politics of this site is meant to be a reflection of the politics reflected within the allies themselves. And as a reminder one of the major slogans of the site is "Love and respect".

    All in all this is simply a PR misstep/flash in the pan controversy that will eventually blow over and be ironed out, but it's always useful to examine a situation and take a step back and think about big picture ideas.



  • Good to know we're only allowed to express certain opinions in certain ways here.

    And here I thought we were allowed to have a discussion. I don't think I'll be back here if we're going to be threatened by mods for not expressing the proper opinions.



  • Just a general rule of thumb, if you can't put the words "I think" or "I believe" in front of your statement, your statement is probably not directly expressing an opinion. In the case of "Get over it" the opinion is only inferred through a dismissive imperative statement. Also a poor choice if you're trying to actually have a discussion.

    It's fairly obvious that the purpose of that post wasn't to have a discussion or to present an opinion. It was just a dismissive post about other's opinions.

    Edit: it took me so long to write this in a neutral voice that they aren't even here anymore!


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    @arglebarglefooferah

    Despite the ominous phrase in my signature bar. I'm just here to keep the peace and nudge us towards healthy discussion habits.

    While reset era seems to have a mixed rating from those outside it's bubble, the general rule here is just try and keep it positive and constructive. No one's being banned for specifically saying that they think this is no big deal, it's all in the delivery.

    Just like the joke that started this whole mess, delivery is everything.

    EDIT: I see you've deleted your account. Whelp. ¯_(ツ)_/¯



  • I guess he could not "get over it" LOL



  • I'm glad this thread happened.
    Sorry not sorry for my outburst, but I've just become so tired of the back and forth with those who choose to be willfully ignorant of the issues being discussed.
    Perhaps I took it a bit more personally than I should have, but as a wise sage once said...
    ¯_(ツ)_/¯



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