Do you have any of them Rumors?



  • @el-shmiablo said:

    I think people who thought there wasn't going to be a big leap in graphical fidelity from this generation to the next will be quite surprised.

    People mean like the leap from PS1 to PS2 or even PS2 to PS3. Doesn't seem like we'll ever get that kind of leap again.

    the shadow quality, screen space reflections, and foliage density in that video is pretty night and day

    These are all pretty minor improvements to most people in the grand scheme. Foliage density is probably the closest to making a more significant difference, but for people to actually praise that you have to be on Horizon levels with it, and even that game's praise was alongside elevated by 4K HDR. Even though there were 4K games before Horizon, it seemed to fit into the period where people were finally upgrading tvs to take advantage of the talk of impressive HDR in that game. So it was many factors at play. The kind of leap it takes to wow people isn't from low to ultra settings on a game, but leaps like SD to HD or HD to UHD. (which is a BS term, but you know what it means)

    So no, I do not expect to be shocked by the visual improvements from current to next gen consoles. It is always iffie because it is easier to sell people on a graphical bump, but I just hope we continue to see an increased focus on hitting better, more stable framerates instead, even if it is only one available option for how to run a game.



  • @mbun said in Do you have any of them Rumors?:

    @el-shmiablo said:

    I think people who thought there wasn't going to be a big leap in graphical fidelity from this generation to the next will be quite surprised.

    People mean like the leap from PS1 to PS2 or even PS2 to PS3. Doesn't seem like we'll ever get that kind of leap again.

    the shadow quality, screen space reflections, and foliage density in that video is pretty night and day

    These are all pretty minor improvements to most people in the grand scheme. Foliage density is probably the closest to making a more significant difference, but for people to actually praise that you have to be on Horizon levels with it, and even that game's praise was alongside elevated by 4K HDR. Even though there were 4K games before Horizon, it seemed to fit into the period where people were finally upgrading tvs to take advantage of the talk of impressive HDR in that game. So it was many factors at play. The kind of leap it takes to wow people isn't from low to ultra settings on a game, but leaps like SD to HD

    That's how I see it, yeah. PS1 to PS2 is what I see when people say generation leap.



  • I mean, realistically, what you're talking about is realism impact, and seeing as graphics are at a point right now where adding MORE detail isn't necessarily making things look more realistic, the next actual generational gap is probably VR, which right now doesn't LOOK more realistic, but can fool your brain into believing it's more realistic due to presence and spacial recognition.



  • I mean, did you guys check out the DF video?
    At least in terms of where current generation consoles stand, PC's are a huge step ahead. Volumetric particle effects, ray tracing, deformable terrain, and a host of other effects that just aren't present at all even on the mid generation upgrade consoles.

    I really do think we will look back at this generation at the end of next and wonder why we ever thought this stuff looked good.



  • @el-shmiablo I'll be real, my dude. My eyes can't pick up most of those differences. If they're slowly laid out to me and I'm told specifically what to look for than yeah, I can notice it. But for the most part when I see the two running side by side I just think "yeah, I guess PC looks better."

    Meanwhile, COD Modern Warfare on Wii vs PS3 I thought "Oh shit, the wii is real dated." Most people forget that got ported to the wii, but not I!



  • I'm of the opinion that we are unlikely to see any truly big steps in terms of graphical fidelity, sure there will be more bells and whistles that will be there if you really care and look for them, which do end up making things look better, but we have reached a point where the quality is so high already that we get diminishing returns on more effort put into this graphics, and besides I think at this point it is irrelevant.

    One of things that I remember seeing in a video is how the leaps we may see are in terms of AI, which I think would be far more important.



  • Call me crazy but I still think anything beyond PS360-level graphics is just mindless dickmeasuring and the only thing that really matters these days is if a game can keep a stable 60FPS. I'm perfectly content for my games to be in 720p for the sake of that compromise.



  • @naltmank I guess to each their own.
    Playing BFV on my Pro doesn't even look like the same game as when I see it on my buddies monster rig. I am pretty sensitive to graphical differences I guess.



  • @naltmank
    I remember Cod on Wii being a pretty decent port.



  • @dmcmaster It was, but even I could see the difference between SD and HD. At this point my eyes aren't good enough and my screen(s) aren't detailed enough or big enough to catch just how much better something is on PC vs. console, or anything like that. I'm sort of at a "pretty graphics are pretty" point for a lot of this stuff right now.



  • There's a big difference from KILL one to shadow fall.



  • Hearing from a grapevine, a salty, salty grapevine that WB will be next to get the 007 License, alongside getting the game rights. Other two big contenders are Universal and Disney.



  • @dmcmaster

    What studios does Universal and Disney even own? Didn't they both abandon gaming?



  • @dipset
    I believe they are only looking to acquire film rights, although of I had to guess Disney would just treat Bond like Star Wars games.

    WB is the only one currently seeking both film and games.



  • @dmcmaster

    That's smart to go for both film and video game rights. Based on what I've read about the Star Wars approval process where EA is removed from Disney/LucasFilm, there might be a simpler unity between film makers and game developers which can help smooth out the process of making a game based on a film or at least approving whatever the game comes up with.

    007 is a franchise that could spawn all sorts of interesting games but have yet to really cross into that realm yet. Just a couple good FPS games and a few half decent action games and some cheap bad crap. It's all over the map. I feel like this franchise could get the Riddick or Batman treatment where a studio just runs away with an idea and their own universe and the game is better for it.



  • @dipset
    Apparently WB's plan is games staring or featuring past Bonds, to fill gaps between film releases.
    Wont know for sure as Sony's final film comes out next summer, and probably wont hear an announcement on who gets the rights till some time after said film.

    Also apparently the Broccoli's are keen on Disney, but only on the condition that Kevin Feigh steps in to help produce. They've seen the success of the MCU (who hasn't) and want him to work his magic on Bond (which if other rumors are true, he'll have Marvel, Star Wars, and Bond under his control)

    Oddly though I want to say last year Pierce Brosnan said something about wanting to return to the role in some way. Which I wont complain about a Bond game staring Brosnan.

    As for WB they've apparently pitched a more "back to basics " bond as far as potential films are concerned, think less serious Craig era films, and will be another reboot (yes the Craig films are a reboot) and Felix might possibly get his own spinoff film (a first for the franchise)



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  • We might be getting a Nintendo Direct next month, but it won't be announced as one. Will be announced as a "goodbye to Reggie" video.
    Apparently it starts with Reggie saying thanks for all the years and fun, he then tries to leave stopping along the way at various places in NOA, reminisces a bit before someone tries to convince him to stay by saying something like "oh but Reggie you'll miss out on [announcement]" before it fades or transitions to a trailer. However with multiple things having been said per take only the editing team would know what's real.



  • @dmcmaster mother 3



  • @iboshow
    Maybe a trilogy set, and maybe Gannondorf is joining MK11 as a guest.