The PS5 News and Info Thread



  • @hazz3r said:

    without having to go searching for it online and risk getting spoiled

    Instead you're at risk of being spoiled constantly by the line of things coming up on your resume game menu.



  • @mbun Having to click on a suggested hint for a trophy seems a lot less spoilers than looking up a review for a game and the first video being SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE IN THE LAST OF US 2 - 4K



  • @el-shmiablo
    Or looking up how to fix a central air AC unit and it just being spliced right into the damn thing.



  • Resisting the urge to use or abuse the in-game tips will be difficult because as time goes on, I'm less inclined to waste time on obtuse things, but it would be nice for newcomers to play, say, Resident Evil Remake, and not feel lost in the wilderness.



  • @mbun As they said in the video, devs have full control of marking activities as containing spoilers.



  • @el-shmiablo You're talking about the clicking into the hints to bring up the video walkthrough of how to get to a thing. I'm talking about your resume game menu being lined with a string of upcoming interest points. I don't want to know the Awesome Sword of Elf Slaying is right ahead of where I am in the game when I accidentally glance to the right, that or any other person or object of interest! Those things should be buried in menus!!!

    @Hazz3r That's only for when people post screenshots and such into a Party, and I don't see the majority of devs taking the development time to mark stuff as spoilers. It doesn't help at all with what I'm talking about. Who's going to keep using Parties anyways, now that Sony is recording them constantly. Quite the invasion of privacy.



  • @mbun said in The PS5 News and Info Thread:

    @el-shmiablo You're talking about the clicking into the hints to bring up the video walkthrough of how to get to a thing. I'm talking about your resume game menu being lined with a string of upcoming interest points. I don't want to know the Awesome Sword of Elf Slaying is right ahead of where I am in the game when I accidentally glance to the right, that or any other person or object of interest! Those things should be buried in menus!!!

    I could be wrong but I think he said that he already went through those parts.



  • @mbun said in The PS5 News and Info Thread:

    @Hazz3r That's only for when people post screenshots and such into a Party, and I don't see the majority of devs taking the development time to mark stuff as spoilers. It doesn't help at all with what I'm talking about. Who's going to keep using Parties anyways, now that Sony is recording them constantly. Quite the invasion of privacy.

    I think you're not reading between the lines. That functionality is powered by the Devs tagging an Activity as containing Spoilers, so that functionality naturally extends to not showing you cards for content you haven't seen yet.

    Sony isn't recording voice chats. Other Users can record voice chats that you're having with them.



  • @hazz3r said:

    That functionality is powered by the Devs tagging an Activity as containing Spoilers, so that functionality naturally extends to not showing you cards for content you haven't seen yet.

    Which devs won't do, and for that to function they'd need to tag their entire game as Spoilers, section by section.

    Sony isn't recording voice chats. Other Users can record voice chats that you're having with them.

    Pretty sure that's outright misinformation. They're recording your Party chats in case a Moderation issue arises, but that also means they always have Audio Logs of all your Party chats.



  • @mbun https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/16/details-on-new-voice-chat-functionality-coming-to-ps5/

    Please note that this feature will not actively monitor or listen in on your conversations – ever – and it’s strictly reserved for reporting online abuse or harassment.

    Once the PS5 console launches, if a PS5 player needs to file a harassment report, they will be able to include up to a 40 second-long Voice Chat clip in their report — 20 seconds of the main conversation with the other player, plus an additional 10 seconds before and after the conversation selection. Only the most recent five minutes of a Voice Chat will be available for a player to use for this reporting function.

    It's up to players to send the clip of their choice as part of their report, Sony won't have access to the entirety of all your voice chats ever.



  • @mbun Pretty sure THAT is misinformation.
    It's already been detailed. They have just made recording and submitting audio from chats easier for users. They are not recording the chats themselves.



  • if something has a microphone and is connected to the internet. the company is almost definitely recording you and spying on you.



  • @yoshi It's not spying if you agree to the terms and conditions.

    And yes yes, I know, it's weird. I'm saying this with a bit of a wink. But it's true. When you use these devices, buried in that horrible legalese is "we're listening to everything." No one is breaking into your device, you sign off and agree.



  • @axel @El-Shmiablo All that's saying is that yes, your voice chats are constantly being recorded, and for the purpose of moderation a player is the one choosing to send a recent clip in, instead of a moderator always sitting in and listening. Whether they admit it or not, there's nothing stopping them from accessing all the other recordings it is constantly making other than their word, which is NOT part of the Terms of Service.

    @Sazime Yeah, it isn't even illegal, because they have you outright agreeing to this if you want to use their console's feature. No thanks, I'll just use other voice chat options. Besides, I still don't trust that screenshot sharing aspect of the Parties to accurately tell whether the stuff being shared is a spoiler or not.



  • I just double checked and the PS5 PS Store is built-in to the system OS as opposed to the app that was introduced in like 2010-2013 on PS3 and continued on as an app for PS4.

    That means Sony went back to how the PS Store used to be integrated into the PS3 OS back from like 2006-2010, which was A LOT faster, albeit very rudimentary and utilitarian. I personally think this is a good choice. It'll give people more ease of use, especially when searching for things.



  • @tokyoslim said in The PS5 News and Info Thread:

    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-nvme-ssd-from-wd-revealed-and-its-fast-enough-for-the-ps5/1100-6483060/
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    New SSD announced from Western Digital today, brining the total number of drives announced that are potentially fast enough to meet PS5 specs at 3 I think?
    The Samsung 980 Pro, This WD Black, and the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus.

    Nice! Just bookmarked this for when I get a PS5. Gonna upgrade to a Gen3 M.2 SSD for my PC sometime soon, then get one of these for my eventual PS5 now that I know how simple it's gonna be.



  • @mbun Yeah, that's fair. I'm not all to worried about spoilers because I don't interact with many people on PSN. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out, and I'm ready and willing to be a guinea pig. :D



  • @mbun What it means, I believe, is that your voice chat is constantly being recorded locally, and since you can only access the last few minutes of convo to report, it makes sense that older chats are deleted progressively.

    They wouldn't store hours of voice chat on your console, nor would they have any purpose storing everyone's chats on their own servers either.

    So I don't think there's anything to worry about on that front.



  • Surprise: PS5 was sold out this Friday in Russia (in case you didn't know, it was freely available for pre-order before that). I guess that UI showing was a system seller.



  • @mbun https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ps4-update-sony-apologises-for-recording-voice-chats-confusion/amp/

    Please note that this feature will not actively monitor or listen in on your conversations – ever – and it’s strictly reserved for reporting online abuse or harassment."