Epic Games Store



  • @mbun said in Epic Games Store:

    Just feels like they're trying to use the money they have now to bizarrely negotiate better future income.

    This is literally the goal of every company, and there's nothing bizarre about it.



  • @tokyoslim It is bizarre when instead of just trying to negotiate a larger cut directly you start a competing marketplace and use underhanded methods (buy exclusives, placate people with free games, pretend it is all for the greater good) to get others to flock to it and try to turn the whole thing in some kind of ethical movement to achieve the same end goal. The hilarious part is if this actually worked out for Epic in the sense of they end up overtaking Steam as the big store for PC games, they'll probably drown in the upkeep costs or be forced to raised their cut for the hosted games themselves, unless they keep operating costs down by never giving the community any decent features I guess. That's why they'd rather Steam just fork over the percentages they want and pretend this whole thing never happened. But people are stupid enough to get swept up in this fake ass "more money for developers!" movement when Epic just wants that themselves and are using that lots of other developers do too to their advantage.

    Yeah, and it'd be great if the game industry unionized too, but then everyone will complain how long the games take to come out and having to pay more than $60 for a new AAA release. Unlike this stupidity though, that one should actually happen. People can deal with getting less games if it results in higher quality ones that don't destroy the lives of those who make them.



  • @mbun said in Epic Games Store:

    It is bizarre when instead of just trying to negotiate a larger cut directly you start a competing marketplace and use underhanded methods (buy exclusives, placate people with free games, pretend it is all for the greater good) to get others to flock to it

    I am telling you that it's not bizzare at all. In fact, this is exactly what Steam did to brick and mortar stores ten years ago.



  • This is literally how capitalism and the free market work.
    Don't like it? Jordan Peterson would like a word with you, ya dang commies.



  • From experience in the TV/film world, I know how difficult it is to secure all the pieces of your pie (graph) that makes up the funding/budget of your show. Sometimes $200k can be the difference between a new season and a cancellation. So I definitely support game developers bringing revenue into their studio any way they can get it.

    Sure, Metro was already done and the Epic deal didn't directly fund the game development, but there is such a fine line between a studio that is thriving, then later showing up to work one day with the doors locked. People don't realize how possible that can be - even for a studio that works on HIGH PROFILE stuff. Sometimes your budget quite literally just pays for the product and you lose money just to get it finished.

    So if a studio can get an extra milly here and there, I think any studio owner would do that. Say what you will about Epic being anti-consumer but jobless developers doesn't help consumers either. I obviously know this isn't a dichotomy between store exclusives and losing your job. My point is to create an example.

    In all, I'd disagree that something like Sony making Bloodborne (and funding it) is different than a studio taking a, say, $1M bonus from Epic because until we see that pie chart, we don't know where the money for Bloodborne even came from and we don't know how it compares to a third party studios financing. All I know is that in a world of big budget high profile media, sometimes these businesses go tits up in a heartbeat and I would take the money if I ran the studio too.



  • According to this week's EZA Podcast, Valve's VR games will be available on Rift and Vive as well and not be exclusive to the Index, but also yea apparently there's a Vive Pro that costs more than the Index. So there's some pointless semantics arguing thrown out the window. Your move Epic.



  • @mbun It's so pointless you decided to bring it back up, eh? That is good news though, one less point against Valve.

    Now if they would take less of a cut from developers and remain competitive in the market, everyone could be happy. Your move Valve.



  • @sabotagethetruth I'm just correcting misconceptions in the topic, including my own.



  • Epic just added regional pricing for a lot of countries.



  • Well would you look at that

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    Looks like the entire PC gaming conference is an EGS exclusive.



  • @el-shmiablo This is how the world ends isn't it? Everyone grab the ones you love and bunker down, the Internet is going to burn on June 10th.





  • Not that I agree with the fire and brimstone I see in the PC Gamer comments on every single article they make, their show being sponsored by Epic may actually make their audience go insane.



  • I like it



  • @binarymelon
    No the world ends if they announce that somehow without anyone knowing it, Half Life 3 will be a EGS exclusive. That will drive people to utter insanity.



  • Looks like there's a pretty massive sale ongoing at EGS. A bunch of game discounts plus an additional $10 of from Epic for every game $15 and up.

    https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/news/announcing-the-epic-mega-sale



  • @binarymelon Hot damn. Epic just blowing Steam the fuck out.



  • ... Had some difficulties loading some pages, might be some people who are intersted. There is even 10€ off on some prepurchases. But have to think relly hard if I want to buy anything. Looked at Quantic Dream Games Prepurchase and next to no info on release date. Sucks. ... And next free game will be Rime, Nice!



  • @binarymelon
    Wait there giving people money for shopping with them?



  • @dmcmaster and a weekly free game during the sale.