Final Fantasy VII Remake

  • @dmcmaster

    Yeah last night I was digging into a lot of these theories about the whole game overall having that extra layer of meta-narrative regarding FF7 itself and the legacy of FF7 in the real world. I can totally see it being relatively accurate.

    I wasn’t even upset with all the weird shit, especially the confusion in my mind throughout because I assumed having a certain character appear earlier that they are supposed to was more of a marketing thing. But then the ending just outright confused me and we got into this new heightened territory where I guess I can’t look at all of Cloud’s weird shell shock ptsd flashbacks / forward flashes on the surface level anymore.

    So because of there being that extra layer to the entire game that I was unaware of until maybe the last few chapters of the game, I feel like I was playing this game with the wrong lens. But the presentation of whatever the heck is happening at the end was very confusing to me regardless. Like I had no clue what was going on. There might be story justifications but it just felt like typical Japanese end game bullshit. The Evil Within does the same thing—massive fight in a void where space, scale and relative distance to anything doesn’t matter. Persona 5 pulls something similar too. This kind of epic end game nonsense is something I can definitely live without, but I think developers just lack confidence in ending subtle so they end on a massive BANG.

    Again, I have to reiterate that I’m insanely pleased with this game. I never expected the game to be anywhere close to this fun, and now FF7-2 is one of my most anticipated games in years. Just the crazy ending was too confusing for me.

  • Speaking of FF7-2 I'm completely confident in my thoughts that it will borrow the road trip type stuff from FF15. Just seems like a good fit I think.

  • @dmcmaster

    Considering the scale they went with in this Final Fantasy Remake, I can't imagine they go with a Ni Nu Kuni style overworld. Although, I wonder what a modern twist on that would look like. I imagine a mini-open world with a big sense of scale but maybe a lot less distance to travel than the original FF7 overworld.

    I also imagine Point A to Point B, say, Midgar to the Chocobo Ranch could be 5 hours of gameplay in itself if they go that route. Not just drive here, walk there, but really seeing towns, creatures, and sights along the way. Obviously not a 5 hour drive, but like, you can only go a certain distance before hitting a quest, then side missions, then you gotta undo this roadblock kinda journey.

  • Whatever route they're going to take with Part 2, I hope they don't just make the world bigger but don't fill it with cool things to do or see. I really want Part 2's actual world to be filled with fun details to gush about, Part 1 kinda lacks that overall.

    Also, since Part 1 is SE's first Unreal 4 FF game, I hope they can work the technical kinks for the next one. I'm sure they can push that engine to even greater heights.

  • I definitely think the world is going to be smaller but feel bigger in scale when compared to the original. Considering Part 1 is a liner game with the ability to open up here and there, I don't think they'll just make an open world. Probably do the same as Part 1 where you journey on the rails for a bit, then later on things open, but the world isn't humongous.

    At least that's my quick assumption.

  • New Zack Fair related thing coming??

  • The theory I've seen people digging into is that Ever Crisis could be a movie.

  • Picked up my Switch playthrough of FF7 so I can fully understand this ending then dive into spoiler modes and such. I forget so much of this game since I played it for the first time in like 2007 maybe. I definitely look forward to my whole party, including Red XIII, dressed up as sailors in "disguise".

    So, other than Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus, I don't even know about all this other FF7 spin off shit. What's the syllabus to even grasp WTF is going on here? Gonna finish FF7 on Switch then watch Advent Children, but I likely don't have to consume it all?

  • Crisis Core is phenomenal (especially via Emulation) however it's hard to tell what if any connection it will have to Remake. It's also the one game that probably won't see a Remake or port or anything due to a celebrity being used as a major character

  • @dipset Focus on just finishing FF7 first, for the rest I think you'll be fine with just reading up about it. Advent Children is one of the most nonsensical pieces of crap I've ever watched, don't get your hopes up.

  • @axel
    Although the fight scenes are nice to watch. But yeah AC is pretty much nonsense