Marvel's Avengers (Square Enix)

  • @themarcv
    I said this earlier but it is most likely a move to placate or use on them later when they eventually go back to negotiating Spider-man's film rights in 2025-2026 or whenever Spider-man's last two contractually obligated MCU movies release (Run From Home and allegedly either a Doctor Strange or Captain Marvel team up flick) I can see someone at Marvel using Spidey being a timed exclusive for The Avengers game as something to bring up in negotiations. And I will maintain that Spider-man is more then likely timed, because you know what's supposed to come out in 2021? Spider-man: Home 3 (or as I've been calling it Run From Home)

  • @dmcmaster I hope your right, time exclusives are much easier to swallow. You make a good point about timing that with the next movie release, however I do question if that movie is still on schedule with all the Covid delays with filming.

  • @themarcv
    I did say it was supposed to, assuming the Uncharted movie (which started production about a month ago) doesn't have any further delays Spider-man 3 could just barely make it into 2021's release calendar assuming it releases in Fall/Winter instead of Summer, seeing as Marvel movies seem to finishing filming in 6-9 months of shooting.

  • @miserableperson

    I think it's very small number comparing to people I described.

  • @scotty Ye. I find that a lot of the time the people complaining are just a very, very vocal minority. The Last of Us 2 for instance.

  • Playing the Beta, and it's pretty good, might even say it could be a major contender against Destiny or other similar games.

    Also hard to tell but it seems like the Endgame will revolve around the Power level which so far only seems to hit double digits, although cant say for sure until final game.

  • Started the beta before work this morning, only got past the opening level and that was fun. Kinda wish I had a little more time to spend with each hero as that level goes at light speed but I enjoyed it. Looking forward to putting in more time over the weekend.

  • Just spent 2,5 hrs with the beta, completed the story missions with Kamala and Hulk and now it said that you're welcome to try out different War Zones around the globe.

    I think this might be my Destiny. I think it will. There's no way this game's for everyone, but I was pleasantly surprised right away by the impact of Thor's hammer strikes. I mean I've said it before: I'd settle for a new Ultimate Alliance, but this goes beyond that (except for the roster size, clearly). That Chimera helicarrier will function as your base of operations and it'll be neat to see it come back to live. All those cardboard boxes and trash will move out, I expect, as the story moves forward. Most likely SHIELD personel will emerge there as well.

    The two story missions with Hulk and Kamala sparked enough something for me. Like, they're putting the band back together, that classic trope. I'm in! Little by little searching for the team mates. Now they were after JARVIS and then Tony. A few cool moments already.

    The missions/levels were full of caches that had all sorts of resources, like around ten different kinds at least. When I get my hands on the main game I'll be sure to search for every nook and cranny. Now it was all too overwhelming all at once to get a good grasp about all of those.

    Initially after the A-Day mission I thought that Cap might be my favourite (which he still could be, really liked his move sets and stance) maybe along Black Widow, but after playing more with Hulk and Kamala those two worked just fine as well. In the HARM room I got to be Iron Man and with that tutorial I appreciated him much more than on that bridge in the beginning.

    At times the action slowed down a bit which made me think about how I'll definitely move on to PS5 then with the game. And just in general this is clearly a long process, an evolving one. Never been a part of any Destiny style game, a living game so to speak, but this could very well be the one for me. It doesn't feel 10/10, or even 9/10, but there's nothing wrong with that as long as you know what you're getting into. This beta is something to try out, it'll definitely reveal the game's face to you.

  • Basically The Avengers
    Youtube Video

  • So I figured when doing missions with AI partners they'd still get XP, just not as much as the character your using.

    AI partners get no XP

    Also there is a Performance mode for PS4 Pro

  • I just watched Kyle's stream with Brad, Ben, and Huber. Man, watching this game gives me a headache. There's too much happening on the screen for me, reminds me of how I felt with Monster Hunter World. The UI and HUD just feels more crowded than it actually is. Not to mention the screen shakes. I also don't feel like the gameplay will scratch any kind of itch that I have right now, so I'm definitely not gonna try this game out. I hope y'all are enjoying it though.

  • That was my hang up with Monster Hunter World, too much shit flying around the screen. I was never quite sure if I was playing the game properly or doing the right thing. Like this sort of feeling like I’m doing something wrong at all times. It’s a shame cause I kinda liked just running around the world but I really had no clue what was going on.

    I also get overwhelmed in Destiny as well as any MMO. I don’t see Avengers being different for me. I’m an awful multitasker. Like horrible, I’m a decent cook but extremely slow and if a recipe calls for chopping this while boiling that, I’m always 5 mins behind. I get that same sort of overwhelmed feeling when playing games like this.

    It’s cool enough to watch on stream but lord have mercy if I ever play this. I think I’ll just skip it and wait for a different superhero game.

  • Now that the Beta is closed for the moment I have to say I really enjoyed my time with it and I'm now even more excited for the full release. There are issues for sure, the online was pretty much a mess, only got a couple missions in with randos and the game can really start dropping frames when stuff is hitting the fan. However, I just had so much fun with the story and combat. Obviously the combat felt much better when I was able to expand the hero's arsenal of moves but I generally like how every hero had the same basic moves but how some of it changed from hero to hero.

    This being said I'm a big Marvel fan, I played a lot of ultimate alliance 3 so I think this game would have real big problems if it couldn't sell me. I was interested in this game from the first trailer even though I agree the faces gave me a little pause at first (I don't know if they got reworked but I didn't have any issues with them in the Beta). I 100% understand how some of the back door deals will turn people off but for me personally this beta just confirmed my excitement for this game.

  • Seems like the Beta got a update that includes data for some potential DLC characters (or Skins)

    Playable Characters

    Spoiler>*>!Captain Marvel!<

    • She Hulk!<

    • Kate Bishop!<

    • War Machine!<

    • Peter Parker!<

    Character References

    • Frostbite ( look for "Marketplace_TestOutfit_3" but there are references to Ms Marvel costumes named "Frostbite" as well so Im not sure if it's actually a character )!<

    • Rico ( look for "CardGameSet_MysteryBox_Rico_test" probably nothing )!<

    Both Frostbite and Rico are X-Men so maybe that means something?!<

  • @dmcmaster Also saw these rumors about those characters. I actually really dig those characters so I would be fine with this, only issue I've seen people raise is

    some are very similar to existing characters and maybe these are just different skins. I wouldn't even mind that that much if they were also voiced with different actors. Could also be a kinda work around so people could have two of the same type of characters in a game at once.

  • @themarcv

    I think that will be the case as I remember at SDCC last year they showed off a Sam Wilson Captain America costume, with them specifically mentioning it was cosmetic

  • Even though I loathe loother shooters/gaas; because of my love for Marvel and curiosity about the campaign played the beta this weekend on a base PS4.

    -Didn't like the performances of actors. Even Laura Bailey came off which I really found succesful as Abby in Part II.
    -Kamala is enthusiastic okay but I hope she won't be this much. Because she feels like a caricature more than a real person.
    -Combat is fun but skill tree is limited, hope it's related to beta. My favourites are Kamala and Tony.
    -Missions outside the campaign feels so meaningless and bland.
    -Missions outside the campaign gets repetitive very quickly even in beta, it can cause a big issue if the main game will be like this.
    -There are a lot of FPS drops, especially in chaotic scenes with explosions; also textures are really bad, it hurt my eyes to look at the game.
    -Even though I am curious about the campaign I'm afraid of the possibility that it will be very basic missions with average cut scenes and leave a lot to be desired.

    So yeah, obviously this isn't a game for me as a campaign lover. Also, I can't help but compare it's production quality with Arkham and SMPS4 games and it's way behind them. Even if I leave those games and compare it to some other looter shooters/gaas games like Destiny 2 and Anthem it still doesn't look very good. It's beta but there is just one month until the release, so I'm not holding my breath for it to be succesfull both commercially and critically if they don't postpone it for the spring of 2021 or beyond to polish it a lot. Btw, I'm planing it to check out PC version this weekend to see how it looks graphically and runs to compare it with the console version.

  • I highly doubt they'll delay it to spring this late.

    As for Kamala, that's sorta her character in the comics, at least the handful I've read with her in them. She basically fangirls out every time she meets Spider-man, Hulk, Thor, Howard the Duck, etc.

    I do hope that as the campaign goes one she sorta tones it down as she gets accustomed to meeting her heroes.

  • @scotty Just curious did you play Ultimate Alliance 3 by chance?

  • @dmcmaster said in Marvel's Avengers (Square Enix):

    As for Kamala, that's sorta her character in the comics, at least the handful I've read with her in them. She basically fangirls out every time she meets Spider-man, Hulk, Thor, Howard the Duck, etc.

    Yeah, I know her too from the comics. It just came too much and not sincere unlike comics, more caricaturized if it makes sense.

    @dmcmaster said in Marvel's Avengers (Square Enix):

    I do hope that as the campaign goes one she sorta tones it down as she gets accustomed to meeting her heroes.

    Hope so.

    @themarcv said in Marvel's Avengers (Square Enix):

    Just curious did you play Ultimate Alliance 3 by chance?