Your Surprise New Flops


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    What upcoming games still to be released games that are Hyped up do you think will Flop ? Why do think they will Flop ? Maybe they will sell well but might not do well with the masses and will be short lived. Think like a "Anthem"

    My surprise flop is DEATH STRANDING.
    Every time is see or hear New info on that game I'm like WTF is this. ?!?!?



  • This should go well



  • Doesn't really seem fair as these games mostly just don't appeal to me so I'm calling these out as I don't think their newest games are going to win me over.

    Halo 5, again I'm just not a big Halo person and the last more story oriented trailer didn't really sell me. I don't think people were super hot on Halo 4 right?

    Metroid Prime 4, again another game series that never really won me over. Only played a few hours of the first and it just didn't grab me. I think 4 will review well and have good word of mouth but feel like it won't sell as well as BOTW, Smash, Mario and the like.

    Bayonetta 3, like the others just personally never got into the series. Like MP4 mentioned before I can see this one reviewing well but just not selling as well as people would think.

    Those are mine, I hope I'm wrong and these games are huge successes but just my guesses.



  • @acidtrip-69 I don't totally disagree that Death Stranding when all is said and done might disappoint people but where you see this stuff and think wtf, I see this and think I gotta see this. The game itself might be boring or convoluted but it's already sold me that whatever it is, it'll be different and thats a nice change of pace from a lot of the sameness we see in the AAA space. Does that relate to success in this case, hard to say, time will tell.


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    @themarcv ok, but still doesn't change that it's my flop.
    Maybe I might add shenmue 3 to surprise flops as well.

    • this game is a crowd founded. Track record on them is not so well to games that do come out great to bad.

    • still looks like a game that was made in the year 2000 in 2019



  • Shenmue 3, I mean it will probably make fans happy, but I have this feeling it's going to sell far, far worse then the Dreamcast games.

    That Shovel Knight smash bros/puzzle game (think it's called Dig)

    Psychonauts 2. While I'm anticipating it (and I also backed the game to get my name in the credits) I just have this feeling it won't live up to my expectations or miss something that made the original such a gem to go back to.

    Skull & Bones
    A combination of revealed too early and not being the thing I wanted it to be judging by the last bit of news probably won't be. Granted someone here on the forums is working on the game and said there's still much to be revealed, obviously he can't say what but unless the game consists of more then just online only PVPVE battles I have no hype or excitement for this game.
    Granted what I want is basically more of AC4 and Rouge with more Pirates of the Caribbean influences, so make of that what you will.



  • @dmcmaster said in Your Surprise New Flops:

    Granted what I want is basically more of AC4 and Rouge with more Pirates of the Caribbean influences, so make of that what you will.

    But you play as a ship! Think about that(!) Also, you can aboard other ships and have sword battles PotC style. Oh sorry, they are just cutscenes...

    Also, did I mention that it is online only and probably don't have a focused story?

    Stupid Ubisoft is stupid.


    My pick:

    Beyond: Good and Evil 2

    I just don't like it when games like this are online only. Most of us will forget about it after just 2 months; like For Honor, Wildlands, Sea of Thieves etc.

    They still don't understand.



  • @dmcmaster said:

    That Shovel Knight smash bros/puzzle game (think it's called Dig)

    The Fighting Game is called Shovel Knight Showdown, and it is included as part of the Shovel Knight Treasure Trove. That means, if you already own Shovel Knight, you'll likely get this for free when Showdown releases. The SteamWorld Dig type game is Shovel Knight Dig, which is a separate game people will have to purchase that is not included in Treasure Trove made in collaboration with a whole different studio.



  • @acidtrip-69 Yeah, as someone that loves Shenmue I don't really think it'll be a surprise when it doesn't sell well (it has never sold well). The game seems 100% committed to staying true to roots including stilled VO and repeating dialogue lines (Lucky Hit?, Should I play a game of Lucky Hit?, I'll play a Game of Lucky Hit) but for fans I don't know if it'd really be Shenmue if it didnt play this way. If it didn't sell well when these visuals and mechanics were cutting edge, its not going to sell well when this stuff now feels like its from generations ago.


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    @scotty Really Beyond Good and Evil 2. I think it looks cool, but from what they said what they want to do with it. I'm like how long will it take them to finish it before it comes out ? Lolz will it be the NEW Stars Citizens game ?



  • From what I can tell in reports, Ghost Recon Breakpoint is a bland piece of crap. Which might not come as a surprise to anybody because its a pretty unambitious franchise with no identity at this point, but just do me a favour and watch this demo. Doesn't this look FANTASTIC to you? It looks like an extremely promising mixture because tactical stealth, action oriented gunplay, and sandbox exploration. Based on this demo, I'm looking at SOCOM II single player meets Metal Gear Solid V. It looks pretty darn great in my opinion.

    Youtube Video

    But skip ahead to the past few weeks up until this exact moment and everybody is down on this game. It's basically the Ghost Recon: Kitchen Sink of AAA Tropes.

    Ghost Recon Breakpoint Is An Infuriating Mess
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    PC GAMER - GHOST RECON BREAKPOINT REVIEW - A tedious open world tactical shooter.
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    Eurogamer - Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint review - a limp and lifeless spin on the Ubisoft formula
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    Again... this probably comes as NO SURPRISE to many of you, but I'm in the camp of people that actually likes a Ubisoft game from time to time. I know of people who work here and they are talented and passionate people. I also know a lot of their franchises are getting bland, I know their FarCry expansions are basically asset flips, I know I know. But there is usually a certain degree of quality in all of these games and it seems that despite what I thought initially, Breakpoint might be the worst of them all.



  • I almost put a pre order down on break point, like that announcement trailer legitimately got me a bit hyped, but something just didn't sit right about it hell I'm still not sure what it was that made me re think it.
    As far as the ghost franchise being kind of lost I can see that, like it could possibly fill the same void that MGS left, but at that point you may as well use Splinter Cell.



  • @dmcmaster

    Ubisoft was able to recognize the clear overlap between Prince of Persia and Assassin's Creed so they put PoP on the back burner indefinitely. Now neither Splinter Cell nor Ghost Recon have a clear identity, and in GR's case, there is a ton of bleed into other Ubisoft franchises where that PoP/AC blur is present again. Why play Ghost Recon > FarCry or why play Ghost Recon > The Division 2?

    I think a new Splinter Cell should partly be a linear-level style stealth missions like the original trilogy, but also have some semblance of modern open sandbox stealth like Metal Gear Solid V and maybe Hitman 2. All solo as in Sam Fisher ALONE. No squad and no co-op phantom Sam Fisher.

    I think a new Ghost Recon should dial into single-player or co-op tactical unit gameplay like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter or (my favourite) SOCOM II. Control and command your unit by yourself or with a friend. It can be super similar to the current mold but make it more tactical in the sense that you need to be strategic to penetrate through an enemy base. Slow and steady gameplay. Pull up a menu, tell your squadmate to go here, tell your other teammate to go there.


    Its all food for thought but I definitely think Ubisoft needs a clear line between some of their franchises at this point. Going back to the original topic, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that original gameplay demo was fantastic. I didn't smell the bullshit like you did though.



  • I think Halo Infinite will be a massive flop.
    343 have made it incredibly clear that they don't understand why people enjoyed the Halo games in the first place, and the singleplayer portions of the past two games have been laughably bad and a giant shit stain on the Halo legacy.

    Youtube Video



  • @acidtrip-69

    Like I said. It being online only is such a turn off from my part. Also, I don't trust Ubisoft with their ''online-only'' portfolio very much. So, this is the result.


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    @scotty said in Your Surprise New Flops:

    @acidtrip-69

    Like I said. It being online only is such a turn off from my part. Also, I don't trust Ubisoft with their ''online-only'' portfolio very much. So, this is the result.

    Wait what ? ARE you for sure it's online only ? I thought it was going to be a REALLY BIG signal player game mode.



  • @acidtrip-69

    As far as I understand, it will be like Division. In terms of story part. There is no offline mode.



  • My picks are:

    • Dreams, the sort of early access release was super weird, i feel by the time the full game comes out people have already moved on.
    • Project Resistance: i'm not interested on the concept, in general i don't think that's what people want from RE even as a spin-off.
    • Panzer Dragoon: i mean great that they are remaking it but it didn't look super hot in its first demo at Gamescom, i hope they will delay it to 2020.

    Crossing finger Medievil will be okay enough (since i have nostalgia for it) but the demo was rough.

    Death Stranding and Shenmue 3 fall into the same category for me of: it's weird, their die hard fans will do anything to defend the games regardless of any flaw so why bother? I don't think either of those will be an Anthem anyway.



  • Were you seriously expecting that Terminator game to be good?



  • @dmcmaster said in Your Surprise New Flops:

    Were you seriously expecting that Terminator game to be good?

    Fair enough, i'm removing it since the surprise would be if it is actually good.



  • @gageblackw23
    Nah keep it, as long as it's not as bad as Reefs Rambo game it will be sorta ok-ish