[Rumor] - Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges



  • I'm cautiously optimistic about this information as on paper a lot of Nintendo's ideas seem incredibly smart, but turn into complete failures. Regardless I will be getting the NX for Zelda, so I guess they already have my money.

    Damn you Nintendo..



  • Also, some possible specs.

    The ergonomics and marketing of the NX will be vital. How bulky is it? Do the two controller halves connect? Are they just to enable two-player gaming on the go, and is there a separate home controller? What kind of screen? Does the dock have extra hardware to bump up the resolution for the TV? If so, can the dock be upgraded to eventually support bigger, home-only games? Will the fast loading times of cartridges be emphasized? Will western third parties finally be turned off of Nintendo hardware completely because of the more complex concept and higher cost of cartridges? Will it have a very low price point to compensate if that happens? Will Nintendo even need western third parties anymore thanks to merged first-party output?

    I see ways that this can succeed, but they have to get it just right.

    Perfect design/target audience + increased mindshare thanks to mobile + killer Q3 2017 game lineup could = $$$$$



  • I think it could be great. I'm hoping that the dock for the TV has additional GPU power, which seems realistic given current technology. That way the less powerful handheld will save on battery power and still have the same game running at less demanding settings than when plugged into the dock. Cartridges are a necessity for a handheld (if not downloaded and stored on the device), so that makes sense, and for a home console cartridges would have a much faster read speed and could potentially store save data, patches, and DLC depending on capacity.



  • If it's handheld it will be weak, if it's weak it'll be a disappointment.

    I wish Nintendo would just do a Sega and stop making consoles and just make video games. That's the part they're good at anyways.



  • If it brings us good gameplay I will be happy. There is a Nintendo patent that outlines a dockable supplementary device upgrade. With detatchable controllers we might get new customized button layouts for left and right handed people.

    Cartridges at 32 gigs is good but needs expandable internal memory. The docking station could have expandable storage as well. Only problem is people would want parity in access to their library on the go.



  • Even before this, I wouldn't have expected the NX to compete with the PS4K or Scorpio in power, just the original PS4 and Xbox One. Not because it shouldn't or I wouldn't like it to, but because it's Nintendo and that's not what they do - it would be more expensive and give them less freedom to play around with the input methods, etc. like they always like to do. They couldn't possibly package together a handheld and console with that kind of power and sell it at a price anyone would pay either.

    The X1 chip itself seems more powerful than the WiiU anyway. My best hope now is that maybe it's like the PS4K/Scorpio in reverse with the handheld having WiiU (or maybe slightly better) performance and then the dock adds more power to bring it to at least PS4/Xbox One levels.

    With the handheld having a smaller (but hopefully upgradeable) storage capacity for downloadable games, I don't see why the dock wouldn't have a larger storage capacity that could easily transfer to the handheld (and quickly, with a proprietary connection built just for that) so that you could choose a game from your library on the dock and it pops it right over to the handheld.

    My hopes are probably way too high, but I'm hyped about it. Don't disappoint me too much, Nintendo.



  • I believe this is the right move for Nintendo if true. Putting everything under one roof and doubling down of being portable is Nintendo playing to their strengths. They said a long time ago that they don't compete directly with Microsoft and Sony and this is them continuing to march to their own tune but in a cool way. Rather than the "Oh dear god what are you doing?!" tune of the Wii U.

    I'm excited to see more and if playing via TV has any advantages to playing on the go. The base station could be used to boost the console's graphical power while at home.

    More importantly though because their teams will no longer be split between 3DS and Wii U titles that means that we should hopefully see a steady stream of games coming out for this thing.

    Above all I think people need to remember that Nintendo are not in the game of chasing graphical statistics and which console has the biggest dick. They always make beautiful games geared for their hardware that play great.

    So yeah, I'm excited!



  • okay so we can kiss goodbye the zelda reveal graphics uh.



  • Can't wait to play Breath of the Wild in 480p on the go :anguished:

    I'm really hoping they give the screen a decent resolution, the 3DS was really lacking even in 2011.



  • They've burned me too many times already, GC wasn't amazing and had a really rough launch IMO. I ended up using it more for playing GBA games on my TV than anything else.

    Wii didn't have enough games, they scrapped the GC backward compatibility halfway through the lifecycle while still not really ever releasing that many games for it.

    Wii-U worst one of the bunch, mostly games designed in ways nobody asked for, forcing gimmicks most people found annoying, still hardly any games for it and after all the marketing, the merchandise, etc they're already replacing it, and probably the 3DS at the same time.

    This has to be nintendo's greatest gamble, ever.



  • I really think this is the route they had to go. They honestly can't compete with Sony or Microsoft in terms of "core gamer".

    As far as I'm concerned, if they can get Breath of the Wild looking better on this hybrid device, I'd be very happy.It'll be very interesting to hear about the price of it.



  • @Paper-Lion I sort of agree with you, but I don't think this would ever happen. Nintendo doesn't seem forward thinking enough.



  • If Nintendo go with the ARM architecture, they're done. It'll be another Nintendo only console.

    Third party won't commit an entire separate team just to develop on the NX because they didn't go x86 like PS4 and Xbox.
    NX also is going to have to compete against Neo and Scorpio, which is already going to add a lot to third parties' plate.



  • @ZyloWolfBane said in Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges:

    They've burned me too many times already, GC wasn't amazing and had a really rough launch IMO. I ended up using it more for playing GBA games on my TV than anything else.

    Wii didn't have enough games, they scrapped the GC backward compatibility halfway through the lifecycle while still not really ever releasing that many games for it.

    Wii-U worst one of the bunch, mostly games designed in ways nobody asked for, forcing gimmicks most people found annoying, still hardly any games for it and after all the marketing, the merchandise, etc they're already replacing it, and probably the 3DS at the same time.

    This has to be nintendo's greatest gamble, ever.

    I'm with you on this. I stopped buying Nintendo consoles after GameCube. I didn't even buy Wii, despite the innovation or how big the console is - at 100 million units sold worldwide. Wii didn't have enough games - not games that I wanted, anyway. Wii had a better games library than GameCube, but most of the games are done by indies. Most of them are shitty, piece of crap indie games. If you told me that Rare makes games on that machine when Wii launched, I would have been onboard. But no, dumbass Nintendo C.E.O sold Rare to Microsoft. I respect Iwata, but even he made bad, really dumb mistakes.

    During NES, SNES, and N64 days, Nintendo cranked out some of the most high quality, edgiest games on the market. The only time SEGA did that was with Genesis, and to a point, their last console - the Dreamcast.

    Every single time they launch a new console, they always underperform; always trying to be the "cheap" console of the bunch. It's like they're really trying to alienate much of the game industry as it is. That whole Mortal Kombat controversy didn't help, either. (I wrote an article about this - here.)

    I get that they're trying to be the "better choice" based on price alone, but at the sacrifice of "looking" like a contender in the console war. Now it boils down to who wins between Sony and Microsoft. Right now, Sony's winning.

    Unless Nintendo corrects most of the problems that plagued them since that fatal mistake of the 90's with Mortal Kombat, they ain't going to be the same company they were when NES took this industry by storm.



  • no thanks, unless it's $200 I won't care about it
    besides the batter life is definitely going to die, and use last gen hard ware.



  • @Master_Alucard said in [Rumor] - Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges:

    okay so we can kiss goodbye the zelda reveal graphics uh.

    Zelda: BotW is a Wii U game being ported to the next generation, just as Twilight Princess was a GameCube game that was ported to the Wii. It was demonstrated at E3 on Wii U hardware. Other rumours (that line up with what we see here) indicate that NX will, at minimum, be more powerful than a Wii U. Don't let the word "handheld" fool you.

    @siegeh said in [Rumor] - Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges:

    no thanks, unless it's $200 I won't care about it
    besides the batter life is definitely going to die, and use last gen hard ware.

    Literally the only thing we know about the processing parts are that it's using an Nvidia Tegra chip. It could end up being more powerful than a base Xbox One, at least in some respects. And I'm pretty confident that, given the complaints about the Wii U GamePad's battery life (going so far as to release a bigger battery for it), a large portion of this thing will be battery.

    Remember folks, this is not a reveal. Only the concept has leaked. Some of your hopes and dreams could still be in play.



  • @Carlos said in [Rumor] - Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges:

    @ZyloWolfBane said in Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges:

    They've burned me too many times already, GC wasn't amazing and had a really rough launch IMO. I ended up using it more for playing GBA games on my TV than anything else.

    Wii didn't have enough games, they scrapped the GC backward compatibility halfway through the lifecycle while still not really ever releasing that many games for it.

    Wii-U worst one of the bunch, mostly games designed in ways nobody asked for, forcing gimmicks most people found annoying, still hardly any games for it and after all the marketing, the merchandise, etc they're already replacing it, and probably the 3DS at the same time.

    This has to be nintendo's greatest gamble, ever.

    I'm with you on this. I stopped buying Nintendo consoles after GameCube. I didn't even buy Wii, despite the innovation or how big the console is - at 100 million units sold worldwide. Wii didn't have enough games - not games that I wanted, anyway. Wii had a better games library than GameCube, but most of the games are done by indies. Most of them are shitty, piece of crap indie games. If you told me that Rare makes games on that machine when Wii launched, I would have been onboard. But no, dumbass Nintendo C.E.O sold Rare to Microsoft. I respect Iwata, but even he made bad, really dumb mistakes.

    During NES, SNES, and N64 days, Nintendo cranked out some of the most high quality, edgiest games on the market. The only time SEGA did that was with Genesis, and to a point, their last console - the Dreamcast.

    Every single time they launch a new console, they always underperform; always trying to be the "cheap" console of the bunch. It's like they're really trying to alienate much of the game industry as it is. That whole Mortal Kombat controversy didn't help, either. (I wrote an article about this - here.)

    I get that they're trying to be the "better choice" based on price alone, but at the sacrifice of "looking" like a contender in the console war. Now it boils down to who wins between Sony and Microsoft. Right now, Sony's winning.

    Unless Nintendo corrects most of the problems that plagued them since that fatal mistake of the 90's with Mortal Kombat, they ain't going to be the same company they were when NES took this industry by storm.

    It makes me sad, cause I used to really love Nintendo Products. I mean even the original DS took a LONG time to finally be worth buying, and so far all of their handhelds have been leagues better in the selection department. Even if they do end up taking longer to "Get there".

    But they just give up far too soon on their major consoles now, like...Wii had every chance to succeed and there was ZERO reason to replace it when they really had nothing that was going to "Innovate" more than the original Wii already had. And then here they are in the exact same position again.

    I'd love nothing more for the NX to be some saving grace that fixes everything that's wrong, but I'm just.....going to be very skeptical and cautious until I see reason to believe otherwise.

    Hell, even as good as the 3DS has been to me they still screwed people over on the newly designed one. It had no reason to be made, a grand total of THREE games even made optimal use of the enhanced hardware (I think two of them required it) and then on top of that they swore up and down they weren't going to release anything other than the larger model of it only to do exactly what everyone expected and release the smaller ones anyway later on.

    I just don't understand what is going on with their marketing team.



  • Can't see any third parties supporting this at all.



  • I'm ready for a BEEFY Monster Hunter!

    And, FYI, the things that have inside sources on aren't rumors: they're leaks.



  • @Haru17 said in [Rumor] - Eurogamer: NX will be a portable hybrid, powered by Tegra with Cartridges:

    I'm ready for a BEEFY Monster Hunter!

    And, FYI, the things they have inside sources on aren't rumors: they're leaks.

    Problem is Monster Hunter is done, they're working on Monster Hunter Stories, possibly an expansion to MHGenerations (Which I doubt, but who knows) and Nintendo supposedly will have officially worn out their licensing rights by that point.

    So it might end up with anyone after that.