The EZA Community Top 25 Best of 2011!

  • I still need to go back to 2. I seem to start it just before some other big release and never get back to it, and I plowed though the first game!

  • This game is fantastic and debatably the best in The Witcher series. I would say in terms of RPG games in 2011, it’s probably the best one.

    The Witcher 2 also holds a special place in my heart. In 2011, I was 16 and a gaming PC was my first major purchase with my hard earned minimum wage cash. I played The Witcher 1 first but TW2 was the game that I christened my new hardware with. Not only that but I was in a Writer’s Craft class in Grade 12 and we had to write two formal third person reviews of something, while replicating the style of a professional outlet. I chose to review The Witcher 1 & 2 - one as a retro review and one as a current review. My TW2 review was modelled after GameTrailers style of third person narration. I thought I’d be a writer back then but that’s blind confidence of a high schooler.

    I think The Witcher got watered down by the open world and I really preferred the focused plot lines of The Witcher 2. The storyline is completely isolated of some greater epic about Geralt regaining his memory. I love the sort of isolated caper element of Geralt having to clear his name as a king slayer all the while the Lodge of sorceresses are silently plotting nefarious politics.

    More games should look to TW2 for plot inspiration. Not every RPG needs to be epic. This plot unravelled like a novel with a focused intro, conflict, goal, and resolution. Like any great RPG it was up to the player to decide how we get there.

    One of the best RPGs ever and definitely one of the first games I played on PC that felt like “next gen” even in 2011.

  • I've appreciated the Witcher series from afar, especially considering it's one of more successful multi-media properties (and the rare case it not starting as a video game IP, but said games being the most successful incarnation). While I briefly entertained picking up Witcher III, I'm weird in that I would want to play a series from the beginning so playing the original and this entry. However, what has me decided against it is the Witcher shows a major leap in both quality and content from game to game, so Witcher 2 is kind of in a nebulous I'm not going to touch, because the original game looks too dated for my tastes, and Witcher III is just way too massive.

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    You can jump in at either TW2 or TW3 but I’d recommend playing 2 for the great story. The journal in The Witcher across the entire series is written by your bard friend Dandelion and it’s written poetically and fun whereas other games like Kingdom Come pretty much have a glossary / index for a journal which is really boring.

    All that to say, it’s really fun to read Dandelions writings. He’ll fill you in about all the characters and what they mean to him and Geralt. He’ll bring you up to speed about a lot of different things. You just have to take the time to read it.

    I love the first game and it didn’t even feel tooo dates for me in 2011, but I’m sure you can get the plot in a YouTube video. Hell, I think TW2 brings you up to speed in a cutscene or something.

  • I remember loving Witcher 2 visuals and the fact that it had 1.5 campaigns which were good. Don't remember much else, but this is enough to get #3 from me.

  • The Witcher 2 is #15 of 23 on my list. I have issues with the gameplay and open world design of The Witcher 2, but the story and characters were so good that those small gripes were easy to ignore. The Witcher 3 addresses all the issues I had in 2. Which made it a much better game and my GOTY for 2015.

  • The Witcher 2 is a magical RPG. So far removed from the other offerings at the time. It was also my first experience of PC Gaming, having built my first just a few months beforehand.

    I can't gush any more over what other people have said above me. The combat was tough but very rewarding. In a way, I feel like The Witcher 2 was a big inspiration for Kingdom Come Deliverance.

    If you can track down a copy, either for 360 or you have a PC that can run it, it's so so so worth playing, if only to broaden your horizons on what a "Western" RPG can be like. It is Witcher 3 lite in a lot of ways, but there's a charm that 3 loses with its scale, a charm that 2 has in spades.

    Shout out to the real OGs that played it before the patch that lowered the difficulty.

  • I remember Witcher 2 got great reviews but was still underrated for its time then Witcher 3 happened and everybody turned back to this one too. Me? I still haven't played any of them.

    @hanabi said in The EZA Community Top 25 Best of 2011!:

    4's a fine enough place to start since it has a recap of the first three in its menu. It's like an hour long but I mean that's better than the hundred or so it'd take to actually play all three of them

    AWESOME! Every game series need to do that.

  • @scotty said in The EZA Community Top 25 Best of 2011!:

    I remember Witcher 2 got great reviews but was still underrated for its time then Witcher 3 happened and everybody turned back to this one too. Me? I still haven't played any of them.

    Yeah I feel like I have a chip on my shoulder out here trying to explain to whoever will listen to me that The Witcher 2 is really just as good if not better than The Witcher 3 depending on your personal preferences. It did get amazing reviews at the time and I think people assume it is skipable or is dated but The Witcher 2 feels like The Witcher 3-lite. I would say that despite its universal praise, it is underrated. It doesn't feel dated, if you love TW3, you'll love TW2.

    Definitely don't turn your back on this game just because a new one is out (and by new, I believe The Witcher 3 turn 5 years old today).

  • Witcher 2 came out when I was a horndog adolescent, so I just remember going "Woah the sex scenes," but then I forgot about it until Witcher 3, and by then Witcher 2 felt too outdated when I picked it up and tried it. I'll probably give it another shot one day.

  • Catherine

    #8. Catherine - 23 points


    #1: 1 (bard91, Nimbus)
    #2: 1 (tokeeffe9)
    #3: 0
    #4: 3 (TokyoSlim, NeoCweeny, Hazz3r)
    HM: 3 (ffff0, Tearju Engi, Exist 2 Inspire)


    Release date: July 26 [US]
    Developer: Atlus
    Publisher: Atlus
    Genre: Puzzle
    Platform(s): PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation Vita, Windows, OS X


    GT Review

  • one of these days I'm gonna put the time into Catherine that it deserves. Seemed pretty neat from what little I have played in the past.

  • wow higher than I expected, very glad to see it up there, was honestly thinking it might not make it, I absolutely love Catherine, it is probably one of my favorite stories in games and it is just a greatly entertaining game that doesn't outstay it's welcome and Full Body was great for bringing it to this gen with some neat new content.

  • Catherine is my #6. Puzzles were much more interesting than I thought initially and story was nice too. And I got it for free with PS Plus which is always welcome.

  • Catherine is a good but difficult game. Too difficult for me to continue replaying the level I kept failing on over and over. I never ended up beating it because it just stopped being fun after so much failure.

    I’m sure if I played it again today, I’d have more patience. I was younger then and I really liked the game. It also inspired me to play Persona 4 cause I liked the art direction.

  • I picked up the Full Body version during black Friday 2019. While I haven't touched it yet, its inclusion makes me glad that I bought it.

  • @dipset said in The EZA Community Top 25 Best of 2011!:

    Catherine is a good but difficult game. Too difficult for me to continue replaying the level I kept failing on over and over. I never ended up beating it because it just stopped being fun after so much failure.

    The puzzles are fixed so you can use guides as much as you want. I had to use a guide for one of the end game puzzles that adds and extra little annoyance to the game.

  • I loved Catherine a lot. I only got round to playing it in 2017 for myself but watched a lot of playthrough content of the game when it released. I really enjoyed the branching story as well as just the overall high quality of the game. The puzzles never stop being interesting, the game continues to give you new mechanics to play with, and continuously presents new challenge. What's great is that the puzzles aren't randomised, or at least are randomised to a small degree. You can make it to the top through trial and error if you have to.

    The overall plot setting is very Atlas by numbers. The interesting thing about the story is Vincent's personal relationship with the cast and the choices you make along the way.

    The way Catherine treats trans characters is polarising to say the least. I shan't get into that here because I wouldn't want to conversation to spiral into it.

    I'm looking forward to seeing Atlas experiment again in the future. I think Full Body's performance will influence whether we see another title like it outside of Persona and SMT sooner rather than later.

  • More than any game so far (sans the ones I have interest in that I followed coverage of, of course), this is the game that I've heard more conversation about and around, further boosted with the release of Full Body. This is one of those perennial games that, for good or ill dependent on your stance, will stand the test of time. I would actually argue, behind Persona obviously, this is probably the most popular game from Atlus. Many comments for this thread from me have been paying respect but not having the interest to play because of premise or genre or what have you, but for me, Catherine is a no because of the trans issue. Even though in relation to the game (proportionally speaking) it isn't really as prevalent throughout the whole experience, it's enough for it to not have my time.

  • I just have to say, having played the game including Full Body and seeing most of the content, and staying purposely unaware of spoilers, I'm not even sure what was the trans issue people talked about, I consider myself a very open person in this subject, but I won't say I'm 100% confortable with everything in that area, I just think it is everyone's personal business and more power to them, I never saw something that made me think it was talking about something in an inadequate way, maybe I missed something, but as far I'm concerned it was a non-issue.