Halo (franchise) - Official Discussion Thread



  • Oh man those screen shots already look waaaaay better than the video from last year. My main takeaway is that I don’t see any of that weird metal bullshit in the backdrops. Those blocky metal structures in the mountains or whatever looked so weird.

    I have hope still. Looking good.



  • Looks fine, but I was fine with the graphics on the reveal. Least of my concerns regarding Halo tbh.

    But they better make a side mission where I have to rescue Craig from an angry mob or I'm done with the series.


  • Banned

    @phbz I don't think anybody at 343 is self aware enough to do that.

    And yeah, the graphics look fine (still miles behind contemporaries) but that should be the least of people's concerns regarding 343 made Halos.



  • Honestly, art direction was a tip top concern of mine. Probably higher up than some gameplay things. Halo 4 and 5's art direction was just "gloss" and "make it shiny" and it had virtually no identity outside of the already iconic red and blue UNSC suit of armour. I've only played a limited amount of Halo 5 but it did have some fun gameplay elements and the game wasn't complete shit, so I have faith somebody there knows what they are doing gameplay wise.

    That's why art and aesthetic is really important to me. I couldn't stomach another glossy Halo game that has less in common with what made the series great and more in common with COD Black Ops.


  • Banned

    @dipset If the gameplay itself doesn't even remotely resemble what made the franchise great in the first place, a slightly more consistent art style isn't going to mean much in the end.



  • @el-shmiablo

    For sure and I watched some Halo 5 campaign videos and it looks like a complete dumpster fire. I just mean the MP has a lot of solid elements so I know they are capable of doing Halo justice but I have yet to see anything the artistically looks like something I can physically stare at for more than 10 minutes.

    Those games just look so blah so I’m happy Infinite already looks better.



  • More Halo Infinite news from E3

    Halo Infinite - Game Overview Trailer | E3 2021
    Youtube Video

    Halo Infinite | Multiplayer Overview
    Youtube Video

    Kotaku: Halo Infinite Multiplayer: All Your Biggest Questions, Answered

    • Slayer, CTF, Big Team Battle is back
    • Forge Mode confirmed
    • Equipment is picked up on the map and droppable (like Halo 3, yessss)
    • Bots for practice
    • No lootboxes

    I'm still lukewarm on this, but I'm warming up the more that the details come in. I naturally scoff at the recent-Halo equipment and loadout nonsense, but with some tweaks to the formula, I might actually like it. I think in the end I just have to get my hands on it to pass judgement.

    One thing I hated in Halo 4 & 5 is the audio. It just sounds so crunchy and annoying and these gunshots in Infinite seem no different. I really really wish they'd hire a new sound designer because the audio is just so modern and militaristic sounding when it should be in the sci-fi realm.

    #6 on YouTube Gaming trends gives me hope that Halo still has legs nowadays. I really don't want every game to be a fast placed game.


  • Banned

    @dipset I try not to put much stock into what trends on YT.
    Tom MacDonald was #6 yesterday with his song "Snowflake".



  • @el-shmiablo Didn't realise he was Native American I would have swore Mcdonald was a Scottish name. Oh and I think Halo MP looks cool. Just to keep the comment relevant to the thread.



  • @el-shmiablo

    Point taken. I should never underestimate how big the cult of embarrassing fragile white egos exist out there on the internet.


  • Banned

    @paulmci27 He's native? News to me. Personally I'm just embarrassed that dude shares Canadian citizenship with me. Like I would personally find it incredibly embarrassing if every single one of my hit songs was just me whining about how people hate me because I'm white.

    Also, I personally thought the Halo trailers were pretty meh. Nice to see it going free to play, but that's kinda what games need to do to survive in these days.



  • @el-shmiablo He seems to think he is according to his lyrics. I thought all whites in North America were immigrants. I am also glad Halo multiplayer is free.



  • I have been having net code / lag issues lately in MCC. I made "art" about it.

    Youtube Video



  • @DIPSET

    #JustMCCThings



  • The full halo infinite game is on gamepass day one right? I'll get the physical versionbut probs for a cheap discounted rate.

    Would love to play it on gamepass in meantime though


  • Banned

    @yoshi The entire multiplayer suite is free for everyone when it comes out, GamePass or not. Only thing anybody needs to pay for is the singleplayer.



  • IGN has new Halo Infinite gameplay.

    Halo Infinite: Full Slayer Match on Xbox Series X Multiplayer Gameplay
    Youtube Video

    Longtime Halo YouTuber 'MintBlitz' shares his thoughts:

    Halo Veteran Reviews Halo Infinite
    Youtube Video

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    We were discussing this a bit in the EZA Fantasy Critic chat (and by discussing, it was me having an "old man yells at cloud" moment), and I'd like to put together my own thoughts about it:

    POINT 1 - I'm too close to the series

    For somebody who never even owned an Xbox except for a month or so in 2011 before it bricked itself; I actually really love the Halo series. I played CE on my parents computer when that port released around 2003 or 2004. My middle school years were filled with hours of Halo 3 split-screen at my friends house.

    I really miss those days. I'll admit there is a nostalgia factor, but there is plenty of objectivity towards why I love those original games.

    All this to say, I'll admit it. I'm a bit too close to the series to be fully objective.

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    POINT 2 - It looks fine

    I'm not blown away by it, but after my first watch and obvious disappointment with the IGN Slayer gameplay, I can take a step back and say, "Okay it's fine I guess." You'd think Microsoft would strive for higher than that, but I'll get to that later.

    Objectively, the gameplay looks fine enough. I think some people will like it. I think new fans will hop in and it'll feel familiar to other shooters. It's not all doom and gloom despite my personal disappointment.

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    POINT 3 - FPS has reached full homogeny

    For better or worse, the average player can pick up any major FPS on the market and immediately know the controls, game modes, the movement, physics, and have clear expectations about the TTK.

    I wish more genres had this degree of commonality but I think it's seriously kneecapped the MP FPS over the past half decade. There is so little differentiation anymore. Sprint, slide, hurdle, jump; it all feels so similar. Obviously Halo Infinite would take some modern expectations but I didn't expect this to look like Apex in an arena. It is what it is.

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    POINT 4 - Does Microsoft not know Halo is a legendary franchise?

    Sort of what Capnbobamous said last night, there was a time when every game wanted to be like Halo. Now Halo wants to be like every other game. I don't understand what 343 is going for anymore.

    When the God of War series in 2018 returned from it's stagnation and fall from grace, they made a video game so impactful that it won most GOTY awards and is considered one of the greatest games of all time by many. There too was a time when every Halo release felt monumental. That is why I don't understand why Microsoft is content with "good enough" or "fine" but they should return to form unequivocally with a gigantic splash and statement to say "HALO IS BACK!".

    Just imagine if God of War in 2018 came back and was only kinda sorta good? It's weird seeing a legendary franchise not act like it has legendary status.


  • Banned

    @dipset I think developing a studio around a franchise is a bad idea.
    It happened with Halo and Gears and both have fallen into their weird feedback loop of mediocrity.

    It also doesn't help that the company you created to carry on such a legendary franchise don't seem to have any sweet fucking clue what made everybody love said franchise in the first place.

    Youtube Video



  • @el-shmiablo I agree that building a studio around a franchise isn't a great idea, but Gears 5 is far from mediocre it's actually pretty great & I'm not the biggest Gears fan.Id love them to try out an new IP though.