Best Thing About A Game You Don't Like



  • @mbun Nice, I would've been surprised if that's not the case.



  • Xenoblade Chronicles is a very engaging game that really made me interested about the story it was presenting, but I couldn't handle anymore of it's gameplay at one point, also fantastic musci, XC2 also had great music but that's it.



  • @bard91 I too feel the gameplay of Xenoblade Chronicles is a turn-off. Sucks because Xenoblade looks absolutely stunning.



  • @bard91 said in Best Thing About A Game You Don't Like:

    Xenoblade Chronicles is a very engaging game that really made me interested about the story it was presenting, but I couldn't handle anymore of it's gameplay at one point,

    @jdincinerator said in Best Thing About A Game You Don't Like:

    I too feel the gameplay of Xenoblade Chronicles is a turn-off.

    people always say this about Xenoblade but why? i find that most people who say this haven't even played much of the game for very long.

    Xenoblade's gameplay is about exploring the large environments to complete quests.
    The combat is slow, but it's meant to be. the combat is all about knowing when to use different arts in different situations and linking them all together to build up massive combo's against enemies.
    the visions mechanic also furthers the strategic element by forcing players to learn for themselves which is the best art to use to stop a bad situation from happening. should i Monado shield and protect myself? should i use speed to dodge the enemy attack? should i give myself a buff? should i inflict a debuff on the enemy? or should i just be like "nope fuck you" and do an attack for massive damage to kill the enemy or move their attention away from another struggling party member to prevent them from dying? etc etc etc...



  • @yoshi I think people's expectations are that Xenoblade Chronicles will be like other JRPGs and the gameplay will be similar to them. I think the slowness of the combat puts gamers off too-I'm totally ok with slow combat but I'm always concerned whether I'm dealing damage and I don't know how to play the game properly-so I move on because learning the systems is too time consuming and I don't want to exhaust myself playing a game I can't get to grips with. This of course is my flaw not the game's but I think I and others want more immediacy and less complexity. I'm always up for giving Xenoblade another crack but I don't know if I'll get my head around the combat.



  • I find Xenoblade similar to the Witcher in that it excels in so many areas, but the combat is absolutely horrid. I absolutely adore both games, but the combat mechanics the games are not at all one of the notable features of either.

    I guess I'll use that as mine.



  • @jdincinerator there are heaps of Arts that do different things. there are physical arts like Reyn's Sword Drive which is a single hit of Massive damage, there's defense arts like Monado Shield which is pretty self explanatory, there are auras which give the player buffs like damage multipliers and the increase of agility on Dunban which lets him easily dodge attacks there's healing moves like Sharlas heal bullets and there's status inflicting ether type moves like Heropon Riki's freezinate which inflicts damage over time.
    then you've got your basic combo type moves which inflict break then topple then daze.
    Break creates an opening in the enemies defense. topple knocks them over, and daze essentially makes then stay down for a few seconds before getting back up.

    in the menu you spend what are called AP points to improve a moves power. move levels you ranked up a move, the more powerful it will hit, the more it will heal you, the longer your buff will last and the more damage and longer a status will last.

    there's no "right" way to play Xenoblade as such, you've just got find which arts and characters fit your playstyle and level up your arts and character skills accordingly.

    gamers are just too impatient i find. if you know what you're doing you can topple an enemy to the ground, daze them, and then inflict a chain attack to inflict massive damage and keep them down. you can do it to point that by the time your chain attack has finished you've filled up your talent gauge and start a whole new chain attack to inflict even more damage before then enemy even has a chance to get back up in the first place.



  • I really like Xenoblade's combat, but it is fine that others don't as much. I hear people say they like FFXV's combat, and I don't get that at all.



  • Final Fantasy 15 first hour or so. It really gave me good vibes and for a moment I was really excited and thought it was going to be memorable.

    I LOVE Xenoblade's combat but unfortunately while playing 2 I couldn't shake the feeling that Chris Hansen was going to show up any time.



  • @yoshi I played 25 hours of XC and 40ish of XC2, I don't understand what is fun about the quests in those games, or really all that fun of exploring the environmentes in the world, yeah they are pretty but that's about all I can say in their favor.

    My problem with the combat is not that it was slow, is that it was boring, and it's been a while so I don't remember my complaints, but I do remember I had a number of things that I didn't like about it.



  • @bard91 said in Best Thing About A Game You Don't Like:

    I played 25 hours of XC and 40ish of XC2, I don't understand what is fun about the quests in those games, or really all that fun of exploring the environments in the world, yeah they are pretty but that's about all I can say in their favor.

    Depends on the quest you're completing. my favorite quests are probably one where you have to sneak up very quietly and steal an item from a giant level 75 spider without it hearing you. that same item is also surrounded by 6 eggs with giant level 70 something gorilla's inside them. you have to be super careful not to let any of them hear you otherwise you're dead.
    There was also a really funny side story series of quests in frontier village late game where it turns out some cute little nopon are actually running a drug selling business and they even have a druglord leader you have to defeat in the end and stop. different quests have different reasons for liking them.

    as for the environments, i've been playing xenoblade for literally hundreds of hours since the original came out in europe/australia 9 years ago, even today just when i think i've seen it all I'm still managing to discover a new location on the map and new unique monsters that i haven't run into before.



  • With a quick reskin Hitman would be the ultimate 007 game



  • @phbz did the first hour include the Stand by Me part where you have to push the car? Because I thought that was laugh out loud awful.



  • @e_zed_eh_intern No, definitely not that.



  • Monster Hunter Generations:

    1. Cool ideas for flagship monsters, Monster Hunter World could've done more than Glavenus
    2. Hunter arts are effective options that go along well with the old fashioned gameplay style of the mainline games, Valour style though is lots of fun but only for Switch.
    3. So many callbacks to previous entries in the series
    4. It isn't locked to a 3DS system anymore