The EZA Community Top 20 Best of 2009!

  • I've never gravitated towards the Forza series as I got my sim fix early enough with Gran Turismo years prior, and I'm set for life with the genre. Though, in Forza 3's case, I actually have the disc because it's a part of a bundle with Halo 3: ODST and when I purchased ODST, it never told me Forza would be bundled with it.

    This means Forza Motorsport 3 is the only game in my entire life I unknowingly purchased, currently own, and have/will never play.

  • GameTrailers review of Forza 3 (made me feel nostalgic)
    Youtube Video

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    Forza really could have been great, but the near annual releases hindered the series more than it helped. Now it's stagnated and fallen behind Gran Turismo again. Those earlier entries really gave GT a run for their money though.

    Forza Horizon is in a while but her category though. Sony doesn't have anything that comes close to that in terms of arcade racers. Shame they killed off Motorstorm, since I think that could have been their Horizon with the right direction.

  • Forza Motorsport 3 was where the franchise really started to become the grandaddy of sim racers.

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    @jdincinerator Forza is not a sim my dude.

  • Forza Motorsport 3 was great. Spent a lot of time on it with my friends. The Decal Designer was incredibly powerful. I remember watching a video interviewing the developers and they said they had thought that people had hacked the game and were uploading photoshops and stuff.

  • @el-shmiablo Will simcade do?

  • @jdincinerator said in The EZA Community Top 20 Best of 2009!:

    Forza Motorsport 3 was where the franchise really started to become the grandaddy of sim racers.

    Gotta disagree with that statement. I don’t think any one single Forza game can beat any one Gran Turismo game. Even the physics and overall feel of GT6 is better than Forza 6 imo and that was PS3 vs Xbox One. Like I’ll take GT4 > ANY Forza and GT Sport > Forza 7.

  • @dipset Indeed, I thought GT6 was superior to FM5 when they both released in 2013 but I do find that GT generally seems more antiquated than FORZA, although circuit racing is getting very boring now, especially when Forza has the Horizon series.

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    If we're going to compare the most recent iterations of Forza and GT, I can't help but feel that GT has surpassed Forza in every important measure.
    They took a risk pushing for a more online centric game, but it paid off and broke that "antiquated" feel the previous entries in PS3 had that the series couldn't seem to shake for a bit. They honestly seemed to have traded places over time. Early to middle Forza entries were pushing for advancements that GT was lagging behind, but now Forza is the one that has a stale feel that it just can't shake.

    Just want to be super clear that I'm not referring to Horizon. That shit is bangin and top tier stuff.

  • Honestly when it comes to the driving model, between Forza and GT is really a matter of which you're more used to. I say this for two main reasons;

    First, that me and one of my best friends are Forza and GT players respectively. Each one of us has a real hard time enjoying the other game when we play together. Mostly because both driving models are quite different (and semi-crappy from a simulation stand point).

    Second, because from what I've gathered from several sim racers, they also tend to prefer whatever one they grew up with, but ultimately they tend to agree both are not that great simulators. I've even listen to complaints from YouTubers, lamenting that GT Sport became so big in terms of traffic because they would rather play proper sims.

    I do enjoy watching GT Sport and hope the next Forza sorts out the online because Forza online racing is pathetically bad.

  • @sheria I'm guessing it's the art style and music that puts people off. Otherwise it's a really well made game.

    I also like the the chaotic multiplayer.

  • Halo 3: ODST

    #19. Halo 3: ODST - 6 points


    #1: 0
    #2: 0
    #3: 1 (Lotias)
    #4: 0
    HM: 3 (Phbz, Axel, paulmci27)


    Release date: September 22 [US/EU]
    Developer: Bungie
    Publisher: Microsoft
    Genre: First-person shooter
    Platform(s): Xbox Series X/S, Xbox One, Xbox 360, PC



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    I really enjoyed ODST! I mean I'm a huge sucker for all things Halo. I didn't play much multiplayer, but a horde mode and a fun different campaign had me in a good mood.

  • I only bought this for £1 a few years ago. So content wise it didn't bother me it was only 6 hours. I really liked what they were going for with the story & level design very different for a Halo game. The soundtrack is also excellent.

  • Played it for the first time in 2020. Such a weird experiment on Halo, had to give it a HM.

  • The only HALO game I could get into oddly and it's good stuff.

  • I just put like 100 hours into Halo 3 (and still going) since it released on PC this summer and they JUST released the ODST update and I'm not impressed at all. The only thing I like about it is the Silenced Magnum in Recon SWAT, but the silenced scoped SMG is useless, and the feel of the single player is nothing special. Something just grody with the art style too.

    Idk, not impressed in 2021 whereas Halo 3 has aged like a fine wine.

  • @Phbz @JDINCINERATOR @El-Shmiablo

    3:25-3:45 is why I can't get on board with Forza these days.
    Youtube Video – [03:26..]

    The multiplayer is a degenerate wasteland. Single player is the only way to play and enjoy yourself which is a shame because the courses are really nice. Sam thing plagued Drive Club which was a pretty fun game, but the multiplayer had this points system which punished you for getting rammed then ramming another person. It was broken. Then obviously I have little nitpicks in regards to physics and my general driving preferences, but mainly the botched online is what holds the series back by today's standards. Not holding Forza 3 from 2009 anywhere near this critique.

  • And as I expected, for what I feel like is the first time in forever, I can actually discuss a game in detail I didn't vote for. Halo 3 ODST was ninth overall on my list of 14, so it JUST missed out on getting an HM.

    While I like the concept of roaming a city, at night, in the rain, all while cleaning the streets of Covenant, I don't think it really does enough to maintain it being captivating. Sure the piano score is wonderful, but eventually, the streets start to feel bare as you eliminate your foes. The investigation aspect is also nice, but the levels you play really aren't all that fun. HUD design just doesn't look right and the weapons don't feel like the have power to them. On top of that, the overall narrative isn't really strong, but there are a couple of endearing characters in Buck and Dare (Shoutout to Nathan Fillion's Buck becoming more important than expected). Finally, the hidden phone terminals with that side story about the girl and the crooked police chief was weird, and clearly the template for the format of the disastrous "Hunt the Truth" campaign for Halo 5.

    Firefight is just another Horde-esque mode to me and doesn't really do anything I find interesting. Endless modes are a bother, so I've stayed away from it after trying it out a couple times. All that said, the game IS better if you have a friend to play with, but unlike the other Halo games where the campaigns are equally as fun whether you're alone or with a buddy, ODST is noticeably a more enjoyable time with a partner.

    I didn't think I'd sound as harsh as I do when I started, but putting down my thoughts, I remembered this was initially a DLC codenamed Recon, so I guess my gripes are a little tabled in that it never was intended to be anything more than a sidestory to the events of what was happening with Halos 2 and 3.